Mr. Wonderful on AOC

HomerJS

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I thought we don't allow threads without comment from the OP?

BTW - What the last 4 years has shown us socialism isn't the greatest evil -ism this country has to face.
 
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His 7% royalty fee is a fair offer provided he brings value and he should expect to be taxed on that 7%.

I fail to see this guys point, he is inferring she makes 100s of millions on this t-shirt which I have never seen outside of this video and she keeps all that money and she uses obscure tax rules to dodge paying taxes.
Big bridge to jump without any evidence at all.

BTW: only a rich guy wears a t-shirt over a collared shirt. Fucking noob.
 
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shortylickens

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if you're dumb enough to pay 67 dollars for a fuckin sweatshirt you should be banned from whining about it on tiktok or whatever the fuck.
 
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HomerJS

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I thought this was going to be a Paul Orndorff thread. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Methinks Paul has a copyright infringement case.

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Sonikku

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Except AOC isn't a socialist. Neither is Sanders, despite labeling himself as such. They're social democrats. A full blown socialist would call for government to seize the reigns of production from all privately held businesses. If anything their policies seem aimed at preserving capitalism from cannibalizing itself.
 

Fenixgoon

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Except AOC isn't a socialist. Neither is Sanders, despite labeling himself as such. They're social democrats. A full blown socialist would call for government to seize the reigns of production from all privately held businesses. If anything their policies seem aimed at preserving capitalism from cannibalizing itself.
good luck getting conservative americans to agree to that (even though you're correct). anything that isn't full blown capitalism is a) socialism b) wrong.... in their opinion
 

Leymenaide

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good luck getting conservative americans to agree to that (even though you're correct). anything that isn't full blown capitalism is a) socialism b) wrong.... in their opinion


Bernie is a communist calling for a guaranteed minimum income?

Does that mean Nixon was a communist when he proposed a negative income tax?
 

fskimospy

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good luck getting conservative americans to agree to that (even though you're correct). anything that isn't full blown capitalism is a) socialism b) wrong.... in their opinion
Not true! Conservatives Americans are all for socialist policies so long as they personally benefit. Look at them scream when you try to take away their socialist farm subsidies, social security, Medicare, etc.

To them, socialism is any spending they don’t personally like. Similarly, an ‘activist judge’ is any judge that rules in a way they don’t like.
 

quikah

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This is a pretty dumb take. They are campaign contributions.
Quoted before the edit.
85% gross margin.. which she pockets or uses to advance her progressive democratic ideas?
That little bid was just a free commercial. Happy for her.

It is a campaign contribution. It is listed on the website, they actually say you cannot buy from them if you are not a US citizen or green card holder, not that they actually check.
FAQ – Official AOC Shop (ocasiocortez.com)
 
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Moonbeam

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Not true! Conservatives Americans are all for socialist policies so long as they personally benefit. Look at them scream when you try to take away their socialist farm subsidies, social security, Medicare, etc.

To them, socialism is any spending they don’t personally like. Similarly, an ‘activist judge’ is any judge that rules in a way they don’t like.
If conservatives are triggered more by fear than liberals are, something for which neuroscience has peer reviewed established as factual from what I gather, then a number of motivational factors for the behavior you suggested above strike me as having hypothesis rationality.

First off I would suggest that fear isn’t a pleasant experience and also it’s not very ego flattering to see yourself as a fraidy-cat. This might suggest that conservatives are more fear alert, more easily triggered by unfamiliar events, more self protective and suspicious, etc. than more liberal people. Additionally this also suggests they may not want to see or admit to that for ego reasons, and especially even to themselves.

I think then that fear avoidance, and self admissions of it thus become unconsciously motivational for all people but conservatives in particular.

But how do we explain why they are more afraid. I don’t think we ordinarily ask questions directed to understanding blind spots because by definition we are blind to them. None the less I was given insight into this by an unusual individual whose need to understand human motivation became greatly amplified by personal life events. He discovered he hated himself and explained to me that we all hate ourselves, a fact I was with great difficulty able to confirm personally. I call him unique because he also said he cured himself with the help of psychoanalysis. In him I saw the living embodiment of a very different kind of human being, and a confirmation of a psychological state of awareness spoken about from ancient times as a profoundly important state of liberation.

So if we assume that everybody harbors some level of unconscious self hate, and wish to avoid the notion that it isn’t the capacity of everybody to have the potential to be conservative rather than only some just being born that way, a notion I reject, then we need to discover an alternative means to explain how some are more conservative than others and that brings right back to self hate.

You have to feel bad about being afraid if you are afraid and being afraid but only if you have been taught you are bad if you are afraid. Fraidy-cat is a put down directed at children. It means you are a coward and weak.

You get where I am going. The more children are molded and manipulated to conform to parents insane moral beliefs by threat of put downs the more hateful they will become of who they naturally are. The more they reject and repress what is normal for a morally vacant self centered being we were all born as, the more they will become emotionally frozen and locked into that state, and the more they wii project that selfish and hated monster out there.

Selfish childish egotists see the repressed parts of themselves everywhere and develop mistrust and fear the monster will do to them again what happened to them as children.

Such people will feel perfectly entitled to take and never see it as selfish, but resent the hell out of anybody who might get something themselves. They had their dignity as humans stolen as children.

A judge that judges equitably is thus seen as unfair because all the judgement they have experienced was harsh.

My opinion.
 

Homerboy

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This is a pretty dumb take. They are campaign contributions.


It is a campaign contribution. It is listed on the website, they actually say you cannot buy from them if you are not a US citizen or green card holder, not that they actually check.
FAQ – Official AOC Shop (ocasiocortez.com)

Stop with the facts and logic!!! A Republican is trying to make a point!
 

Lezunto

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Except AOC isn't a socialist. Neither is Sanders, despite labeling himself as such. They're social democrats. A full blown socialist would call for government to seize the reigns of production from all privately held businesses. If anything their policies seem aimed at preserving capitalism from cannibalizing itself.


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Vic

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good luck getting conservative americans to agree to that (even though you're correct). anything that isn't full blown capitalism is a) socialism b) wrong.... in their opinion
Except that full-blown capitalism according to conservative Americans is really just socialism that's only for them and to be used against everyone else.
As evidence of this, I'll point out that the OP, self-proclaimed "libertarian" that he is, once complained about not being able to pay more in taxes to the govt agencies authorized to use violence against the populace. How can he use police violence for political reasons if they're not fully funded to do so?
The real socialists in America today are the conservatives.
 

Vic

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Not true! Conservatives Americans are all for socialist policies so long as they personally benefit. Look at them scream when you try to take away their socialist farm subsidies, social security, Medicare, etc.

To them, socialism is any spending they don’t personally like. Similarly, an ‘activist judge’ is any judge that rules in a way they don’t like.
This.

Socialism to them is also when they don't get a privileged handout. Such as if ranchers and miners actually had to pay for grazing and mining on public lands.
 
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