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Mr. Feith, President Bush would like to see you.

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RightIsWrong

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GWB: Doug, I know that you have been a good loyal friend and have supported everything that we have tried to accomplish here.

DF: Why thank you Mr. President.

GWB: That's why what I am going to ask you is a little difficult right now.

DF: Please sir, feel free to ask me anything. I am a member of this team and I am willing to do whatever it takes to help out.

GWB: Ok, here it goes. We need you to take one for the team. The country is demanding answers and we just aren't going to give them the truth and because of this, we need a scapegoat.

DF: Why me Mr. President?

GWB: Well, Dick, Karl and I figure that we can claim that you bypassed the CIA chain of command and gave us the faulty intelligence without our knowledge. We keep plausible deniability while the people get someone that they can hang for the mess we've made out of Iraq.

DF: You want me hanged sir?

GWB: Of course not Dougie, I mean figuratively.

DF: Oh, I get it now.

GWB: Of course you are going to have to do a couple of months time. We will stall the investigation just long enough so that they can get the conviction and I still have enough time to pardon you before we leave office.

DF: And if I refuse, sir?

GWB: You don't really want to know what Dick and the Turd have in mind for you if Phase II has to go into effect.

The "mainstream's" take on what is going on

Pentagon to probe Iraq war architect
Feith suspected of giving unverified intelligence to White House

Thursday, November 17, 2005; Posted: 10:55 p.m. EST (03:55 GMT)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The Pentagon's inspector general has agreed to review the prewar intelligence activities of former U.S. defense undersecretary Douglas Feith, a main architect of the Iraq war, congressional officials said on Thursday.

News of the Defense Department probe comes at a time of bitter political debate over whether President Bush and his administration were misleading with prewar intelligence. The increasingly biter dispute has pitted the president and his top advisers against lawmakers, including some from Bush's own Republican Party.

Democrats have accused Feith of manipulating information from sources, including discredited Iraqi politician Ahmad Chalabi, to suggest links between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, which masterminded the September 11, 2001, attacks.

Bush and other top administration officials cited alleged ties between Iraq and al Qaeda as a justification for military action. But the September 11 commission later reported that no collaborative relationship existed between the two. And both the CIA and the Defense Intelligence agency have dismissed one source of that information, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, as being unreliable. Full story

The inspector general's office informed the Senate on October 19 that it would undertake a review after receiving separate requests from the Republican chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the ranking Democrat on the Senate Committee on Armed Services, officials said.

Congressional officials expect the review to look at whether Feith and his staff bypassed the CIA by giving the White House uncorroborated intelligence that sought to make a case for war in the months leading up to the 2003 Iraq invasion.

Feith, who was the Pentagon's policy chief until he left the Defense Department for the private sector earlier this year, was not immediately available for comment.

Officials said the Pentagon's inspector general told the Senate its review would begin sometime in November. One official estimated the probe could take at least six months.

"We're going to try to expedite it as much as possible," said Republican Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, the Senate intelligence panel chairman who asked the inspector general on Sept. 9 for a review of Feith's Office of Special Plans.

"The IG knows we are very eager to get this done, but he wants to get it done right," he said.

Roberts said his request had been incorporated with a later one from Democratic Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, who asked acting Defense Department Inspector General Tom Gimble in a September 22 letter for a broad probe encompassing all elements of Feith's Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy.

Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman said in an e-mail on Thursday that the inspector general's office was still discussing the requests with committee staff.

Defense officials have defended Feith, saying no credible evidence of wrongdoing by him or his staff has ever been discovered. They also say Democratic lawmakers never responded to a Pentagon challenge to produce incriminating evidence.

A copy of Levin's letter to Gimble, which was obtained by Reuters, asks the inspector general to consider 10 questions, including whether Feith's office undercut the intelligence community by providing the White House with its own analysis that went beyond the scope of the underlying intelligence.

Levin also wants the inspector general to look into whether Feith misled Congress in January 2004 by providing oversight committees with reports dealing with the credibility of prewar intelligence on Iraq.

Roberts' office declined to provide a copy of his written request to the inspector general.
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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
GWB: Doug, I know that you have been a good loyal friend and have supported everything that we have tried to accomplish here.

DF: Why thank you Mr. President.

GWB: That's why what I am going to ask you is a little difficult right now.

DF: Please sir, feel free to ask me anything. I am a member of this team and I am willing to do whatever it takes to help out.

GWB: Ok, here it goes. We need you to take one for the team. The country is demanding answers and we just aren't going to give them the truth and because of this, we need a scapegoat.

DF: Why me Mr. President?

GWB: Well, Dick, Karl and I figure that we can claim that you bypassed the CIA chain of command and gave us the faulty intelligence without our knowledge. We keep plausible deniability while the people get someone that they can hang for the mess we've made out of Iraq.

DF: You want me hanged sir?

GWB: Of course not Dougie, I mean figuratively.

DF: Oh, I get it now.

GWB: Of course you are going to have to do a couple of months time. We will stall the investigation just long enough so that they can get the conviction and I still have enough time to pardon you before we leave office.

DF: And if I refuse, sir?

GWB: You don't really want to know what Dick and the Turd have in mind for you if Phase II has to go into effect.

The "mainstream's" take on what is going on

Pentagon to probe Iraq war architect
Feith suspected of giving unverified intelligence to White House

Thursday, November 17, 2005; Posted: 10:55 p.m. EST (03:55 GMT)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The Pentagon's inspector general has agreed to review the prewar intelligence activities of former U.S. defense undersecretary Douglas Feith, a main architect of the Iraq war, congressional officials said on Thursday.

News of the Defense Department probe comes at a time of bitter political debate over whether President Bush and his administration were misleading with prewar intelligence. The increasingly biter dispute has pitted the president and his top advisers against lawmakers, including some from Bush's own Republican Party.

Democrats have accused Feith of manipulating information from sources, including discredited Iraqi politician Ahmad Chalabi, to suggest links between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, which masterminded the September 11, 2001, attacks.

Bush and other top administration officials cited alleged ties between Iraq and al Qaeda as a justification for military action. But the September 11 commission later reported that no collaborative relationship existed between the two. And both the CIA and the Defense Intelligence agency have dismissed one source of that information, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, as being unreliable. Full story

The inspector general's office informed the Senate on October 19 that it would undertake a review after receiving separate requests from the Republican chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the ranking Democrat on the Senate Committee on Armed Services, officials said.

Congressional officials expect the review to look at whether Feith and his staff bypassed the CIA by giving the White House uncorroborated intelligence that sought to make a case for war in the months leading up to the 2003 Iraq invasion.

Feith, who was the Pentagon's policy chief until he left the Defense Department for the private sector earlier this year, was not immediately available for comment.

Officials said the Pentagon's inspector general told the Senate its review would begin sometime in November. One official estimated the probe could take at least six months.

"We're going to try to expedite it as much as possible," said Republican Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, the Senate intelligence panel chairman who asked the inspector general on Sept. 9 for a review of Feith's Office of Special Plans.

"The IG knows we are very eager to get this done, but he wants to get it done right," he said.

Roberts said his request had been incorporated with a later one from Democratic Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, who asked acting Defense Department Inspector General Tom Gimble in a September 22 letter for a broad probe encompassing all elements of Feith's Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy.

Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman said in an e-mail on Thursday that the inspector general's office was still discussing the requests with committee staff.

Defense officials have defended Feith, saying no credible evidence of wrongdoing by him or his staff has ever been discovered. They also say Democratic lawmakers never responded to a Pentagon challenge to produce incriminating evidence.

A copy of Levin's letter to Gimble, which was obtained by Reuters, asks the inspector general to consider 10 questions, including whether Feith's office undercut the intelligence community by providing the White House with its own analysis that went beyond the scope of the underlying intelligence.

Levin also wants the inspector general to look into whether Feith misled Congress in January 2004 by providing oversight committees with reports dealing with the credibility of prewar intelligence on Iraq.

Roberts' office declined to provide a copy of his written request to the inspector general.
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Since Right is Wrong and Wrong is Right you should fully embrace such tactics. Wait, you did everytime Clinton "hanged" another liberal woman out to dry.
 
Damn, that was quick- straight to the "But Clinton!" routine from the Expert Novice.

Now that we have it out of the way- is there anything you'd like to say that's on topic? Probably not?

It's just business as usual- the guy at the bottom takes the fall- in this case, that may be Feith...
 
Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
Since Right is Wrong and Wrong is Right you should fully embrace such tactics. Wait, you did everytime Clinton "hanged" another liberal woman out to dry.
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Two wrongs do not make a right.

Clinton was tried and paid for it.

Get over it.



 
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
I just think it's funny that the OP had to preface his link with a made-up dialogue. That's credibility for ya. 😉
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I think that it is funny that you think that starting a thread with the norm is what we should all do. I feel that I conveyed my take/opinion on the topic (as the rules state that I have to do) with a nice little twist instead of the usual, boring diatribe.

What is your take on the actual story?
 
He would like to see it go away. Or he would like to talk about Clinton. Either way, no responsibility will be assigned to the prezzzidant.
 
Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
Since Right is Wrong and Wrong is Right you should fully embrace such tactics. Wait, you did everytime Clinton "hanged" another liberal woman out to dry.
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Pathetic! :roll:

Talk to us about how anything Clinton did compares to starting a war based on lies costing thousands of lives and trillions of dollars and shredding our credibiity throughout the world. Then talk to us about pulling out all stops to lobby Congress that we should exempt the CIA from using torture in secret prisons around the world. :shocked:

Get that right, and I'll think about worrying about a guy whose major sin was forgetting to return his fly to its full upright position before landing. Yes, he lied about it. Yes, it was wrong. Yes, he was impeached for it.

Now, admit your prick in chief was guilty and tell us what you think should be done about it.
 
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
I just think it's funny that the OP had to preface his link with a made-up dialogue. That's credibility for ya. 😉
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Actually it's probably the unspoken standard procedure and is expected to be followed to terminate a look up the ladder.
That's how it works in business - they think Government is a business to be run from a quarterly proffit report.

 
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Damn, that was quick- straight to the "But Clinton!" routine from the Expert Novice.

Now that we have it out of the way- is there anything you'd like to say that's on topic? Probably not?

It's just business as usual- the guy at the bottom takes the fall- in this case, that may be Feith...
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I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the Liberals. If you have a problem with that then maybe you condone hypocisy.
 
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
Since Right is Wrong and Wrong is Right you should fully embrace such tactics. Wait, you did everytime Clinton "hanged" another liberal woman out to dry.
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Two wrongs do not make a right.

Clinton was tried and paid for it.

Get over it.
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Quit twisting the message to one that you can defend. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the liberals.
 
Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
Originally posted by: outriding
Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
Since Right is Wrong and Wrong is Right you should fully embrace such tactics. Wait, you did everytime Clinton "hanged" another liberal woman out to dry.
Click to expand...

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Clinton was tried and paid for it.

Get over it.
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Quit twisting the message to one that you can defend. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the liberals.
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By making an irrelevant statement?
 
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