AgaBoogaBoo
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- Feb 16, 2003
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Actually yeah, I'd have to say that all their products are great. Only reason that I specifically mentioned the cylindrical shape is because they look very distinctive
I'm sure the boxed subs look good too though, especially since they're pretty massive in themselves.
To the OP: While I don't want you to regret buying what you did, I think that if you take some time to research your decision like the subwoofer then you can get some better stuff. Your equipment is very good so don't get me wrong, I'm just saying that you might be able to find other choices with the same price tag.
JBL E100 Front (x2)
JBL EC35 Center Channel
JBL E50 Rear Speakers (x2)
Yamaha HTR-5960 Reciever
Trying to decide on a decent subwoofer still.....
JBL EC35 Center Channel
JBL E50 Rear Speakers (x2)
Yamaha HTR-5960 Reciever
Trying to decide on a decent subwoofer still.....
I used to have a SVS cylinder series (the cheapest one) but moved to the pb10 about a year ago...... the pb10 is a beast for a 10 inch woofer it rivaled the 12 in the cylinder series.
Right now I have a 7.1 Wharfedale set and am really looking at getting the SV SBS-01 surround set as well (just because their subs are soo good their speakers have to be good and the reviews have been excellent). I have a Yamaha HTR-5760 Receiver and Panasonic AE700 projector.
Right now I have a 7.1 Wharfedale set and am really looking at getting the SV SBS-01 surround set as well (just because their subs are soo good their speakers have to be good and the reviews have been excellent). I have a Yamaha HTR-5760 Receiver and Panasonic AE700 projector.
TV : Hitachi 51s500
Receiver : Harmon Kardon AV330
Center Channel : Polk CSi-5
Front and Read Surrounds : Polk RTi-8
Sub : HSU Research STF-2
I use my XBOX 360 as my primary DVD player right now, will probably buy the HD-DVD add-on when it's available as well.
Regarding reference volume levels, I too would like to know what 0.00 on your receiver actually translates to in Db's on an analog meter (the RS one is fine, its what is recommended for calibrating HT's). I have my receiver calibrated to DD reference levels when its at - 20db on the volume...that settles it around 85db with 105-110db peaks during intense scenes. For reference, here is a little chart relating DB to every day events
180 Krakatoa volcano explosion at 100 miles (160 km) in air [1]
160 M1 Garand being fired at 1 meter (3 ft)
150 Jet engine at 30 m (100 ft)
140 Low Caliber Rifle being fired at 1 m (3 ft)
130 Threshold of pain; civil defense siren at 100 ft (30 m)
120 Train horn at 1 m (3 ft)
110 Accelerating motorcycle at 5 m (16 ft) ; chainsaw at 1 m (3 ft)
100 Jackhammer at 2 m (7 ft); inside disco
90 Loud factory, heavy truck at 1 m (3 ft)
80 Vacuum cleaner at 1 m (3 ft), curbside of busy street
70 Busy traffic at 5 m (16 ft)
60 Office or restaurant inside
50 Quiet restaurant inside
Having some decent quality components makes going to the regular theater an expendable experience...barring the really good blockbuster movie releases
Receiver : Harmon Kardon AV330
Center Channel : Polk CSi-5
Front and Read Surrounds : Polk RTi-8
Sub : HSU Research STF-2
I use my XBOX 360 as my primary DVD player right now, will probably buy the HD-DVD add-on when it's available as well.
Regarding reference volume levels, I too would like to know what 0.00 on your receiver actually translates to in Db's on an analog meter (the RS one is fine, its what is recommended for calibrating HT's). I have my receiver calibrated to DD reference levels when its at - 20db on the volume...that settles it around 85db with 105-110db peaks during intense scenes. For reference, here is a little chart relating DB to every day events
180 Krakatoa volcano explosion at 100 miles (160 km) in air [1]
160 M1 Garand being fired at 1 meter (3 ft)
150 Jet engine at 30 m (100 ft)
140 Low Caliber Rifle being fired at 1 m (3 ft)
130 Threshold of pain; civil defense siren at 100 ft (30 m)
120 Train horn at 1 m (3 ft)
110 Accelerating motorcycle at 5 m (16 ft) ; chainsaw at 1 m (3 ft)
100 Jackhammer at 2 m (7 ft); inside disco
90 Loud factory, heavy truck at 1 m (3 ft)
80 Vacuum cleaner at 1 m (3 ft), curbside of busy street
70 Busy traffic at 5 m (16 ft)
60 Office or restaurant inside
50 Quiet restaurant inside
Having some decent quality components makes going to the regular theater an expendable experience...barring the really good blockbuster movie releases
Originally posted by: Apex
Depends on the value of your time.
Depends on ones willingness to spend more to have less performance because he didn't want to take the time or lacked the ambition to do it himself.
It's been my experience that reference level is pretty close for normally efficient speakers in the range of 88-90 db.
It all depends on the receiver/pre& and speakers IMHO. But in a moderate sized room I've never had to deviate more than 3 decibels for each channel/speaker.
It all depends on the receiver/pre& and speakers IMHO. But in a moderate sized room I've never had to deviate more than 3 decibels for each channel/speaker.
Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Reference level in our 976 seat theater is 118 dB SPL at 18Hz 14 rows back from the stage. 108 dB 1W/6M efficiency goes a long way.
Only the old folk complain about it being too loud. Hey you know the saying...
don't like mister dolby I see.
tsck, tsck.
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Apex
Depends on the value of your time.
Depends on ones willingness to spend more to have less performance because he didn't want to take the time or lacked the ambition to do it himself.
Actually, depends on if the value of your time is worthless. It's a very common misconception by DIY guys.
If you make $500 per hour, a DIY sub is far FAR more costly than an off the shelf one of the same output/quality.
It's all about proper understanding of the cost/benefit of each path.
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Apex
Depends on the value of your time.
Depends on ones willingness to spend more to have less performance because he didn't want to take the time or lacked the ambition to do it himself.
Actually, depends on if the value of your time is worthless. It's a very common misconception by DIY guys.
If you make $500 per hour, a DIY sub is far FAR more costly than an off the shelf one of the same output/quality.
It's all about proper understanding of the cost/benefit of each path.
And a common misconception by the non-DIY guys is that everyone should consider the time they spend on a hobby or doing anything other than work, time that could be spent making money.
That argument really is a weak one, IMO. Assuming the average person spends 40-45Hrs a week at work, the rest of the time he/she spends is usually not time that could be spent making more $$$ at their job.
None of us are paid to post here, yet we do it anyway.
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Apex
Depends on the value of your time.
Depends on ones willingness to spend more to have less performance because he didn't want to take the time or lacked the ambition to do it himself.
Actually, depends on if the value of your time is worthless. It's a very common misconception by DIY guys.
If you make $500 per hour, a DIY sub is far FAR more costly than an off the shelf one of the same output/quality.
It's all about proper understanding of the cost/benefit of each path.
And a common misconception by the non-DIY guys is that everyone should consider the time they spend on a hobby or doing anything other than work, time that could be spent making money.
That argument really is a weak one, IMO. Assuming the average person spends 40-45Hrs a week at work, the rest of the time he/she spends is usually not time that could be spent making more $$$ at their job.
None of us are paid to post here, yet we do it anyway.
Again, it's a balance. The value of your time building is obviously not going to be as much as if you're working, but it's not $0 either. It's something to factor in to the equation.
It's much the same issue with people saying you can build your own computer for cheaper, or remodel your kitchen for cheaper. It simply can't be looked at without taking into account your time.
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Apex
Depends on the value of your time.
Depends on ones willingness to spend more to have less performance because he didn't want to take the time or lacked the ambition to do it himself.
Actually, depends on if the value of your time is worthless. It's a very common misconception by DIY guys.
If you make $500 per hour, a DIY sub is far FAR more costly than an off the shelf one of the same output/quality.
It's all about proper understanding of the cost/benefit of each path.
And a common misconception by the non-DIY guys is that everyone should consider the time they spend on a hobby or doing anything other than work, time that could be spent making money.
That argument really is a weak one, IMO. Assuming the average person spends 40-45Hrs a week at work, the rest of the time he/she spends is usually not time that could be spent making more $$$ at their job.
None of us are paid to post here, yet we do it anyway.
Again, it's a balance. The value of your time building is obviously not going to be as much as if you're working, but it's not $0 either. It's something to factor in to the equation.
It's much the same issue with people saying you can build your own computer for cheaper, or remodel your kitchen for cheaper. It simply can't be looked at without taking into account your time.
Right, but then we come back to how we spend our free time. I don't get paid to read a book, watch tv, surf the web, or clean the house. Why would I treat building a sub any differenty? I think the people who are so concerned with this concept are the ones who don't want to build to begin with.
Indeed, it is "something to consider" though, I suppose.
how the hell did you guys go for speaker wire and end up with that many things that cost so much, lucky bastard!
- Apr 15, 2005
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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Actually yeah, I'd have to say that all their products are great. Only reason that I specifically mentioned the cylindrical shape is because they look very distinctive
I'm sure the boxed subs look good too though, especially since they're pretty massive in themselves.
To the OP: While I don't want you to regret buying what you did, I think that if you take some time to research your decision like the subwoofer then you can get some better stuff. Your equipment is very good so don't get me wrong, I'm just saying that you might be able to find other choices with the same price tag.
I agree, and I/we usually spend at least a week researching large purchases like this. But in this case I am happy with my decision. I have been a huge Yamaha fan for years, and this new receiver is not exception. For example, the YPAO feature is very handy, and saves a lot of manual testing and config time.
As for the sub & speakers, my friend is very happy with them, especially the sub. I'm not saying that the speakers and sub he bought are the best money can buy (or build
) in his price range, just that he is happy with his decision. TRENDING THREADS
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