Move over F-350, Dodge Ram 3500 is coming!!

SSXeon5

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Yup you heard it, 2003 dodge 2500 and 3500 are on there way! And they brought some friends:

Ram 3500 Regular Cab w/ Cummins Turbo Diesel

Ram 3500 Quad Cab Extended Bed w/ Cummins Turbo Diesel

And its not just styling the new ram has .... got 2 new engines for ultra power:



The all-new 345 horsepower 5.7-liter HEMI Magnum V-8

ENGINE: 5.7-Liter Hemi® Magnum V-8
Availability - Standard, all
Type and Description: Eight cylinders, 90° V-type, liquid-cooled
Displacement: 345 cu. in. (5654 cu cm)
Bore x Stroke: 3.92 x 3.58 (99.5 x 90.9)
Valve System: Pushrod-operated overhead valves, 16 valves,
hydraulic lifters with roller followers
Fuel Injection: Sequential, multi-port, electronic, returnless
Construction: Deep-skirt cast iron block with cross-bolted main bearing caps, aluminum alloy heads with hemispherical combustion chambers
Compression Ratio: 9.6:1
Power (SAE net): 345 bhp (246 kW) @ 5,600 rpm
Torque (SAE Net): 365 lb.-ft. (488 Nom) @ 4,400 rpm






The All-New High Pressure Common Rail Cummins Turbo Diesel

Engine: 5.9-liter Cummins Turbo Diesel
Availability - Optional, all
Type and Description: Six-cylinder, inline, liquid-cooled, turbocharged, intercooled
Displacement: 359 cu. in. (5883 cu cm)
Bore x Stroke: 4.02 x 4.72 (102.1 x 119.9)
Valve System: OHV, 24 valves, solid lifters
Fuel Injection: Electronic high-pressure common rail
Construction: Cast iron block and head
Compression Ratio: 17.2:1
Power (SAE net): 250 bhp (186 kW) @ 2900 rpm - standard output, 49 state manual or 47 RE automatic
235 bhp (175 kW) @ 2700 rpm - standard output, carb, automatic and manual
305 bhp (227 kW) @ 2900 rpm - high-output, 49 state manual
Torque (SAE net): 460 lb.-ft. (624 Nom) @ 1,400 rpm - standard output, manual
460 lb.-ft. (624 Nom) @ 1,400 rpm - standard output, automatic
555 lb.-ft. (752 Nom) @ 1,400 rpm - high output, manual



And the older awsome V-10 is still avalible:

ENGINE: 8.0-Liter Magnum® V-10
Availability - Optional, all
Type and Description: Ten cylinders, 90° V-type, liquid-cooled
Displacement: 488 cu. in. (7994 cu cm)
Bore x Stroke: 4.00 x 3.88 (101.6 x 98.6)
Valve System: OHV, 20 valves, hydraulic lifters with roller followers
Fuel Injection: Sequential, multi-port, electronic
Construction: Deep skirt cast iron block, cast iron heads
Compression Ratio: 8.6:1
Power (SAE net): 305 bhp (228 kW) @ 4000 rpm - (51.7 bhp/liter)
Torque (SAE net): 450 lb.-ft. (597 Nom) @ 2800 rpm

O boy .... 555lb-ft torque .... able to tow 23,000lbs eat that ford!

SSXeon




 

Desslok

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Dodge is finally offering the 3500 in a non duallie config? Or is that only in Canada? I am planning on buy a 2500 with a HO Cummins:) Gotta tow my Jeep in style:)

 

SSXeon5

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Originally posted by: Desslok
Dodge is finally offering the 3500 in a non duallie config? Or is that only in Canada? I am planning on buy a 2500 with a HO Cummins:) Gotta tow my Jeep in style:)

Wut do you mean duallie config? I want the first one, reg 3500 with the new HEMI 365lbs-ft torque ... 5.7L .... o man .... i have to change the pants ;)

SSXeon
 

PsychoAndy

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:Q Just gotta make sure that drivetrain doesn't break :D

Duallie = 4 wheels in the back, 2 in the front, as opposed to 2 and 2.
 

Desslok

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I believe the 2500 and 3500 have the Dana 60 in the back. This axle is coveted by everyone in the Jeeping community. It is the toughest axle out there.

Another reason not to get a Ford is that there is a Technical Repair Report out for the bolts on the Turbo's housing coming loose and causing the turbo to gernade. Way to go Ford! Kinda makes me wonder if Bill Ford knows what he is talking about in those ads he is doing. Built Ford Tough. Blah blah blah.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Desslok
I believe the 2500 and 3500 have the Dana 60 in the back. This axle is coveted by everyone in the Jeeping community. It is the toughest axle out there.


Not just Jeep community, its coveted by all offroaders.
 

Desslok

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If I remember correctly they were used in some of the Cuda's with thier big blocks. Correct me if I am wrong.
 

SSXeon5

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Originally posted by: Desslok
I believe the 2500 and 3500 have the Dana 60 in the back. This axle is coveted by everyone in the Jeeping community. It is the toughest axle out there.

Another reason not to get a Ford is that there is a Technical Repair Report out for the bolts on the Turbo's housing coming loose and causing the turbo to gernade. Way to go Ford! Kinda makes me wonder if Bill Ford knows what he is talking about in those ads he is doing. Built Ford Tough. Blah blah blah.

Yup heard something about that .... and it is the toughest out there. 23000pounds isnt good nuff? lol .... but fords are crap ... they have so many engine problems and other mechanical problems i couldnt begin to tell you. Chevy/Dodge are my main companies .... dodge ram for trucks, chexy camaro for cars :D



Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
:Q Just gotta make sure that drivetrain doesn't break :D

Duallie = 4 wheels in the back, 2 in the front, as opposed to 2 and 2.

Thanx .... and btw they have always had 2500/3500 without duallies .....

SSXeon
 

SSXeon5

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Originally posted by: Desslok
If I remember correctly they were used in some of the Cuda's with thier big blocks. Correct me if I am wrong.

They did have the HEMI in there ... but if your talking about the axle i have no idea

SSXeon

 

Desslok

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I was talking about the read axles in the Cuda:) I believe they were dana 60's I don't think anything else could have held up against a Hemi.

Does anyone here watch the show Trucks on Tnn? Well I guess Chevy just came out with a 572 cubic in crate engine. I forgot the exact numbers but they were north of 650 HP and torque! WOW!

The 2500 you can get w/o the duallie package but till now you could NOT get a 3500 in the states that wasn't a duallie.

 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
To bad the F-150 will still outsell it by a large margin...:p

What the heck are you talking about? The F-150 doesn't compete with the Ram 2500/3500. The F-250 and F-350 do...



BTW, 2 month old REPOST:p
 

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I have the 2001 Dodge 1500 with the 5.7, towed horses in my long treck from CA to VT not one problem at all, love the truck.
 

Insane3D

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Insane3D
To bad the F-150 will still outsell it by a large margin...:p

What the heck are you talking about? The F-150 doesn't compete with the Ram 2500/3500. The F-250 and F-350 do...



BTW, 2 month old REPOST:p


Sorry man, I don't really follow trucks...but I have a feeling the F-250/F-350 will still outsell it...:p


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Engine: 5.9-liter Cummins Turbo Diesel
Availability - Optional, all
Type and Description: Six-cylinder, inline, liquid-cooled, turbocharged, intercooled
Displacement: 359 cu. in. (5883 cu cm)
Bore x Stroke: 4.02 x 4.72 (102.1 x 119.9)
Valve System: OHV, 24 valves, solid lifters
Fuel Injection: Electronic high-pressure common rail
Construction: Cast iron block and head
Compression Ratio: 17.2:1
Power (SAE net): 250 bhp (186 kW) @ 2900 rpm - standard output, 49 state manual or 47 RE automatic
235 bhp (175 kW) @ 2700 rpm - standard output, carb, automatic and manual
305 bhp (227 kW) @ 2900 rpm - high-output, 49 state manual
Torque (SAE net): 460 lb.-ft. (624 Nom) @ 1,400 rpm - standard output, manual
460 lb.-ft. (624 Nom) @ 1,400 rpm - standard output, automatic
555 lb.-ft. (752 Nom) @ 1,400 rpm - high output, manual

Am I reading this right? Six-cylinder? BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

And it only puts out 5lb ft of torque more than the Ford does, which has 20 more hp than the Dodge does :p

The Ram 3500 is barely better on paper than a truck platform thats 6 years old. *sarcasm* WAY TO GO DODGE!! *sarcasm*
 

CocaCola5

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Engine: 5.9-liter Cummins Turbo Diesel
Availability - Optional, all
Type and Description: Six-cylinder, inline, liquid-cooled, turbocharged, intercooled
Displacement: 359 cu. in. (5883 cu cm)
Bore x Stroke: 4.02 x 4.72 (102.1 x 119.9)
Valve System: OHV, 24 valves, solid lifters
Fuel Injection: Electronic high-pressure common rail
Construction: Cast iron block and head
Compression Ratio: 17.2:1
Power (SAE net): 250 bhp (186 kW) @ 2900 rpm - standard output, 49 state manual or 47 RE automatic
235 bhp (175 kW) @ 2700 rpm - standard output, carb, automatic and manual
305 bhp (227 kW) @ 2900 rpm - high-output, 49 state manual
Torque (SAE net): 460 lb.-ft. (624 Nom) @ 1,400 rpm - standard output, manual
460 lb.-ft. (624 Nom) @ 1,400 rpm - standard output, automatic
555 lb.-ft. (752 Nom) @ 1,400 rpm - high output, manual

Am I reading this right? Six-cylinder? BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

And it only puts out 5lb ft of torque more than the Ford does, which has 20 more hp than the Dodge does :p

The Ram 3500 is barely better on paper than a truck platform thats 6 years old. *sarcasm* WAY TO GO DODGE!! *sarcasm*


Don't base it on the number of cylinders by itself, inline 6s are believed to be better than a V8 layout(esp. for heavy trucks), because they're simpler(all cyl. in one line) and they're easier to maintain. You'll still find inline 6s designs at 10-15 liter displacements on large trucks. The above cummins are also found in some industrial trucks like the Volvo delivery trucks as well as of course Ram trucks.
 

NFS4

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I think Raging Bitch should change his name to Raving Lunatic :D

Hehe, anyway, that Cummins inline-6 is a hella strong engine. It puts out 5 more torque than Ford with 2 less cylinders. And torque is more important in this game than horsepower anyway.
 

LAUST

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So SSXeon all you are basically tellin us is you'd rather be Cummin then Strokin'?? ;)

What Dodge really needs to do now is pump out a Tranny

Just remember with ALL these trucks... it's a Cummins Diesel with Mopar parts on it... the Allison 1000 Tranny on the GM's is a Allison Tranny with GM parts on it... they don't follow their big rig models all the way unfortunantly. :( They can be made stronger.... But out of the box the Ford 4R100 (Battle Box)and GM's A-1000 Tranny's are well in the lead right now.
 

SSXeon5

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Originally posted by: LAUST
So SSXeon all you are basically tellin us is you'd rather be Cummin then Strokin'?? ;)

What Dodge really needs to do now is pump out a Tranny

Just remember with ALL these trucks... it's a Cummins Diesel with Mopar parts on it... the Allison 1000 Tranny on the GM's is a Allison Tranny with GM parts on it... they don't follow their big rig models all the way unfortunantly. :( They can be made stronger.... But out of the box the Ford 4R100 (Battle Box)and GM's A-1000 Tranny's are well in the lead right now.

ahhahahaha yep i let the women stroke it ;) And I have friends fathers that have Ram heavy duty trucks (3500's mostly) and there trannies arnt bad at all, never had a prob with it and they haul lots of sh*t. I hate fords, worst engines, they dont know what they are doing. My friends F-150 had to have so much work done to it and its 1-2 years old. My cuz Dodge 2500 hasnt had a problem in 2 years ... other then oil changes and reg sh*t like that. I hate ford, as for GM, I love them. I love there cars mostly, but there silverados are great trucks.

SSXeon
 

SSXeon5

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Am I reading this right? Six-cylinder? BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

And it only puts out 5lb ft of torque more than the Ford does, which has 20 more hp than the Dodge does :p

The Ram 3500 is barely better on paper than a truck platform thats 6 years old. *sarcasm* WAY TO GO DODGE!! *sarcasm*

Hmm you know nothing about engines then

Originally posted by: CocaCola5

Don't base it on the number of cylinders by itself, inline 6s are believed to be better than a V8 layout(esp. for heavy trucks), because they're simpler(all cyl. in one line) and they're easier to maintain. You'll still find inline 6s designs at 10-15 liter displacements on large trucks. The above cummins are also found in some industrial trucks like the Volvo delivery trucks as well as of course Ram trucks.

didnt see you post that .... your absolutely right! Couldnt have said it better myself.

SSXeon