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Moussaoui: White House was my 9/11 target

well I didn't see that coming...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/27/moussaoui/index.html

ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- Al Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui told a stunned courtroom Monday that he and would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to hijack a fifth plane on September 11, 2001, and crash it into the White House.

In a day of bombshell revelations, Moussaoui also admitted that he knew about al Qaeda's plot to hijack planes and fly them into the twin towers of the World Trade Center.

"I had knowledge that the two towers would be hit, but I did not have the details," Moussaoui told jurors after taking the witness stand in his own defense.

Moussaoui said that while he didn't know the "precise date to the day" of the planned terrorist attacks, he knew they would come after his arrest in August 2001 in Minnesota. He said he made sure he had a radio in his jail cell.

When the first news reports on September 11 described a fire at the trade center, Moussaoui said, "I immediately understood."

Moussaoui told jurors, as he admitted last year, that he would have tried to fly into the White House on a fifth hijacked plane.

In an extraordinary revelation, Moussaoui named Reid as one of his team members.

Reid was subdued by passengers in December 2001 when he attempted to set off a bomb in his shoe on board an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami. The plane was diverted to Boston, where it landed safely and Reid was arrested. He is serving a life prison term.

Reid has written Moussaoui at least once during their incarceration.

Courtroom packed
The courtroom was packed and silent as Moussaoui took the stand wearing a white Muslim skull cap and a green jail uniform with the word "prisoner" printed on the back. Half a dozen 9/11 family members occupied the courtroom's third row and the jurors sat at attention, their pens and notepads poised.

There were no dramatic outbursts and no speeches. Instead, Moussaoui spoke in moderate, even soft tones. Within 30 minutes, he had undone more than four years of his defense team's work.

Under questioning by one of his attorneys, Gerald Zerkin, Moussaoui dispelled the idea that he was intended to be the 20th hijacker on September 11 -- the missing fifth man on United Flight 93, which crashed in a Pennsylvania field.

But Moussaoui said he knew the Lebanese pilot of that plane, Ziad Jarrah, from Afghanistan, where the two men had conversed in French.

Moussaoui also admitted knowing lead 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta. He said he knew Atta was "big time" because he saw him frequently in Afghanistan in the company of al Qaeda operations leader Khalid Shaiykh Mohammed.

Moussaoui said he spent a total of three and half years in al Qaeda camps and became a specialist in using household explosives.

His English fluency and his French passport made him "special" to al Qaeda, he said, insisting he was only an "intermediate" player.

Moussaoui said he initially declined when the group's military leader, Mohammed Atef, asked in 1999 if he was interested in hijacking planes and crashing them into buildings.

Agreed to martyrdom
The next year, he said, he agreed to the martyrdom mission.

Moussaoui admitted his "dream," sanctioned by al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, to crash a plane into the White House when he pleaded guilty 11 months ago to joining the conspiracy. But at that time, he said his White House attack was to follow 9/11.

He testified Monday that his knowledge of the conspiracy was compartmentalized and that he had "specific involvement only for my own plane."

Moussaoui took the stand Monday over the objections of his defense team. He said he had been waiting four years to tell his story.

Objecting to his client's testimony, Zerkin said, "I would suggest he does not recognize the authority of the court." Under his al Qaeda training, the lawyer added, Moussaoui believes it is "okay to lie to the court."

Prosecutors said it would be an error to prevent him from testifying, and Judge Leonie Brinkema agreed, saying, "He has an absolute right to testify."

She then told Moussaoui, "You must promise to the court that you will tell the truth."

Moussaoui responded, "Yes, I can."

Prosecutors have said Moussaoui, 37, a French citizen of Moroccan heritage deserves to die, claiming that if he had not lied after his arrest, investigators could have uncovered the September 11 conspiracy.

When Zerkin asked Moussaoui why he lied, Moussaoui replied, "Because I am al Qaeda."

"The Prophet says, 'war is deceit,' " Moussaoui later told prosecutor Robert Spencer. "You're allowed to lie for jihad. You're allowed any technique to defeat your enemy."

After Moussaoui testifies, the defense plans to present statements from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the architect of the conspiracy, plot facilitator Ramzi Binalshibh and other top al Qaeda detainees being held as "enemy combatants" at undisclosed military locations overseas.

The jury will hear written substitutions for their live testimony.

The only question for the jury is whether Moussaoui will be put to death or spend the rest of his life in prison.

To condemn him to death, the jury must agree that Moussaoui committed an act that contributed to at least one of the 2,793 deaths on September 11. On that day, 19 of his al Qaeda confederates hijacked and crashed four passenger jets.

Prosecutors contend Moussaoui's lies to federal agents who arrested him in mid-August 2001 after he aroused suspicions at a Minnesota flight school furthered the plot.

 
P&N is down the hall and to the left.

Now that I got the formalities of the way. Moussaoui needs to be locked up in an institution. I don't believe the guy is anywhere close to the same area code as sane.
 
Originally posted by: Feldenak
P&N is down the hall and to the left.

Now that I got the formalities of the way. Moussaoui needs to be locked up in an institution. I don't believe the guy is anywhere close to the same area code as sane.

it's not P&N.....it's a news story...I'm kind of shocked Richard Reid was supposed to be on a plane too...
 
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Originally posted by: Feldenak
P&N is down the hall and to the left.

Now that I got the formalities of the way. Moussaoui needs to be locked up in an institution. I don't believe the guy is anywhere close to the same area code as sane.

it's not P&N.....it's a news story...I'm kind of shocked Richard Reid was supposed to be on a plane too...

What do you think the "N" in P&N stands for? I know the common perception is it stands for "Namecalling" but it is actually Politics & News. This story covers both bases.
 
Cover him in pigs blood and pig entrails. then put a bullet in is head
Video tape it, then send it to AL JAZZERA for them to broadcast. Let all the terrorist of the world see what happens when you screw with us.
 
..wait a min.now. We're all supposed to be touchy/feely and blame ourselves for the actions of terrorists. Some how we're all to blame because we didn't bend over backwards to understand these murders.
 
Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Cover him in pigs blood and pig entrails. then put a bullet in is head
Video tape it, then send it to AL JAZZERA for them to broadcast. Let all the terrorist of the world see what happens when you screw with us.

black-jack pershing used to do that I believe
 
now where are all those 9/11 conspirists that i love to hate?!? a guy in on the plot just admitted it was al qaeda plot, not the US government. how are you going to make a crappy internet video to explain THAT?
 
Originally posted by: daveshel
It's all a little too convenient. He knows he's going to die so why not do some grandstanding first?

ha. i knew you guys were somewhere. bush made him say this right to throw off all the people who know the "truth" about 9/11 right?
 
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: daveshel
It's all a little too convenient. He knows he's going to die so why not do some grandstanding first?

ha. i knew you guys were somewhere. bush made him say this right to throw off all the people who know the "truth" about 9/11 right?

Yup. In return for his saying this stuff, they will fake his death, and put him into witness protection somewhere.
 
Originally posted by: fisher
now where are all those 9/11 conspirists that i love to hate?!? a guy in on the plot just admitted it was al qaeda plot, not the US government. how are you going to make a crappy internet video to explain THAT?

the govt. has made a secret deal with mousaoui. the snafu with the govt lawyer coaching witnesses almost blew the conspiracy. these statements by mousaoui were given to him to read by the govt. to ensure this death penalty

the whole plot by the govt. is to execute mousaoui to whip up continuted anti-american sentiment as the plans to invade iran are finalized. but in secret, he will be released and his death in the execution chamber faked. he is to receive $10,000,000 and a penthouse apartment in Dubai overlooking the port
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: fisher
now where are all those 9/11 conspirists that i love to hate?!? a guy in on the plot just admitted it was al qaeda plot, not the US government. how are you going to make a crappy internet video to explain THAT?

the govt. has made a secret deal with mousaoui. the snafu with the govt lawyer coaching witnesses almost blew the conspiracy. these statements by mousaoui were given to him to read by the govt. to ensure this death penalty

the whole plot by the govt. is to execute mousaoui to whip up continuted anti-american sentiment as the plans to invade iran are finalized. but in secret, he will be released and his death in the execution chamber faked. he is to receive $10,000,000 and a penthouse apartment in Dubai overlooking the port

I'll go for that :thumbsup:

 
it's amazing what some people will believe just to be "anti-establishment" even though they are just raving lunatics.
 
Originally posted by: daveshel
It's all a little too convenient. He knows he's going to die so why not do some grandstanding first?

of course it is....oh, and were you wearing your tinfoil hat when you wrote that? :roll:
 
Originally posted by: fisher
now where are all those 9/11 conspirists that i love to hate?!? a guy in on the plot just admitted it was al qaeda plot, not the US government. how are you going to make a crappy internet video to explain THAT?

He is receiving radio signals through some fillings in his teeth. If he says anything wrong, he gets a terrible blast of voltage through those same fillings.
 
Originally posted by: fisher
it's amazing what some people will believe just to be "anti-establishment" even though they are just raving lunatics.

:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I dont believe anything he has to say.

Exactly, why should we believe any of it? He's looking out for his ass now and if he corroborates his testimony with how the government wants it he could come out of this without the death penalty for sure.
 
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I dont believe anything he has to say.

Exactly, why should we believe any of it? He's looking out for his ass now and if he corroborates his testimony with how the government wants it he could come out of this without the death penalty for sure.

no, the govt. needs the death penalty in order for the plan to work. they have to execute him in order for him to disappear. if they keep him in jail for life, they have to get a body double to sit in the jail, that makes the plan much more complicated
 
He seems to be completely out of his mind, which makes it impossible to know where the truth ends and his grandiose fantasies begin. I think it would be a miscarriage of justice to give him the death penalty, because we don't really know what he did at this point.
 
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it is odd that he chooses now to come forward with this. The man's got an agenda, most likely saving his own ass.
 
Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it is odd that he chooses now to come forward with this. The man's got an agenda, most likely saving his own ass.

The thing is, this testimony is just as bad, and arguably worse, than what he's already admitted to.
 
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