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Moussaoui Says He Was to Hijack 5th Plane

jlmadyson

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Moussaoui Says He Was to Hijack 5th Plane

Moussaoui: White House was my 9/11 target

Al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui testified Monday that he and would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to hijack a fifth airplane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House.

Moussaoui's testimony on his own behalf stunned the courtroom as he disclosed details he had never revealed before. It was in stark contrast to Moussaoui's previous statements in which he said the White House attack was to come later if the United States refused to release a radical Egyptian sheik imprisoned on earlier terrorist convictions.

Moussaoui testified Monday he lied to investigators when arrested in August 2001 because he wanted to let the attacks of Sept. 11 go forward.

"Yes, you can say that," Moussaoui said when the prosecution asked if that was why he misled them. The statement was key to the government's case that the attacks might have been averted if Moussaoui had been more cooperative following his arrest.

He told the court he knew the attacks were coming some time after August 2001 and bought a radio so he could hear them unfold.

Specifically, he said he knew the World Trade Center was going to be attacked, but asserted he was not part of the plot and didn't know the details.

Taking the stand in his own defense in his death-penalty trial, Moussaoui said he declined to become a suicide pilot in some future attack when asked by a senior al-Qaida official in 1999.

Nineteen men pulled off the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York in Washington in the worst act of terrorism ever on U.S. soil.

"I had knowledge that the Twin Towers would be hit," Moussaoui said. "I didn't know the details of this."

Asked by his lawyer why he signed his guilty plea in April as "the 20th hijacker," Moussaoui replied: "Because everybody used to refer to me as the 20th hijacker and it was a bit of fun."

Moussaoui testified calmly in his death penalty trial, but against his lawyers' wishes.

Before he took the stand, his lawyers made a last attempt to stop him from testifying, but failed. Defense attorney Gerald Zerkin argued that his client would not be a competent witness because he has contempt for the court, only recognizes Islamic law and therefore "the affirmation he undertakes would be meaningless."

Asked by Zerkin if he was supposed to be one of the men who would pilot a plane on 9/11, he said no, adding: "I'm sorry, I don't know about the number of planes but I was not the fifth (pilot) hijacker."

The 19 terrorists on Sept. 11 hijacked and crashed four airliners, killing nearly 3,000 people in the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and on the planes.

About his guilty plea, he said: "I took a pen. I signed it."

He said talked with an al-Qaida official in 1999 about why a 1993 bombing at the World Trade Center failed to bring the towers down. He said "was asked in the same period for the first time if I want to be a suicide pilot and I declined."

Yet, he said he was taking flight training for a separate attack on the White House, when he was arrested in August 2001 on immigration charges. He was vague on whether this attack was to have been after Sept. 11 or on it.

"I know it was something going on," he said in French-accented English. "We don't do single operation. We do multiple strikes."

He told the court it was "difficult to say" whether he was involved in the planning for 9/11. At some point, he said, he received training on what to do if at the controls of a hijacked plane if a fighter aircraft approached.

Just before Moussaoui took the stand, the court heard testimony that two months before the attacks that a CIA deputy chief waited in vain for permission to tell the FBI about a "very high interest" al-Qaida operative who became one of the hijackers.

The official, a senior figure in the CIA's Osama bin Laden unit, said he sought authorization on July 13, 2001, to send information to the FBI but got no response for 10 days, then asked again.

As it turned out, the information on Khalid al-Mihdhar did not reach the FBI until late August. At the time, CIA officers needed permission from a special unit before passing certain intelligence on to the FBI.

The official was identified only as John. His written testimony was read into the record.

"John's" testimony was part of the defense's case that federal authorities missed multiple opportunities to catch hijackers and perhaps thwart the 9/11 plot.

His testimony included an e-mail sent by FBI supervisor Michael Maltbie discussing Moussaoui but playing down his terrorist connections. Maltbie's e-mail said "there's no indication that (Moussaoui) had plans for any nefarious activity."

He sent that e-mail to the CIA even after receiving a lengthy memo from the FBI agent who arrested Moussaoui and suspected him of being a terrorist with plans to hijack aircraft.

Former FBI agent Erik Rigler, the first defense witness, was questioned about a Justice Department report that he said criticized the CIA for keeping intelligence about two known al-Qaida terrorist operatives in the United States from the FBI for more than a year.

Under cross-examination from the prosecution, he acknowledged the report did not link the pair specifically to a civil aviation plot. But he said the report's thrust was about their preparations for what turned out to be the 9/11 attacks, and their ability to elude federal agents.

"That's why they came here," he said. "They didn't come for Disney."

The two were among the 19 suicide hijackers on 9/11. The report said they had been placed on a watch list in Thailand in January 2000, but not on a U.S. list until August 2001.

Prosecutors argue that Moussaoui, a French citizen, thwarted a prime opportunity to track down the 9/11 hijackers and possibly unravel the plot when he was arrested in August 2001 on immigration violations and lied to the FBI about his al-Qaida membership and plans to hijack a plane.

Had Moussaoui confessed, the FBI could have pursued leads that would have led them to most of the hijackers, government witnesses have testified.

To win the death penalty, prosecutors must first prove that Moussaoui's actions _ specifically, his lies _ were directly responsible for at least one death on Sept. 11.

If they fail, Moussaoui would get life in prison.

Moussaoui pleaded guilty in April to conspiring with al-Qaida to hijack planes and other crimes, but he has denied any role in 9/11. He says he was training for a possible future attack on the White House.

Not sure we can really believe this guy, but interesting revelation no doubt. If this is correct however that leads me to wonder what the target was for flight 93.
 
Well, we cant believe this because we all know that GWB was the one who planned 911. Duh.
 
Between the CIA trying to get info to the FBI and that FBI agent that testified earlier that he was obstructed in running info up the FBI's own chain of command, it's become tragically obvious that 9/11 *could* have been averted.
 
Asked by his lawyer why he signed his guilty plea in April as "the 20th hijacker," Moussaoui replied: "Because everybody used to refer to me as the 20th hijacker and it was a bit of fun."
"I know it was something going on," he said in French-accented English. "We don't do single operation. We do multiple strikes."
He told the court it was "difficult to say" whether he was involved in the planning for 9/11. At some point, he said, he received training on what to do if at the controls of a hijacked plane if a fighter aircraft approached.
When someone confesses to a crime, but cannot give details, I tend to think that the confession is a lie.


 
Originally posted by: MonkeyK
Asked by his lawyer why he signed his guilty plea in April as "the 20th hijacker," Moussaoui replied: "Because everybody used to refer to me as the 20th hijacker and it was a bit of fun."
"I know it was something going on," he said in French-accented English. "We don't do single operation. We do multiple strikes."
He told the court it was "difficult to say" whether he was involved in the planning for 9/11. At some point, he said, he received training on what to do if at the controls of a hijacked plane if a fighter aircraft approached.
When someone confesses to a crime, but cannot give details, I tend to think that the confession is a lie.

They should, however, just execute both him and Richard Reid anyway.
 
this dude is a fool and wants to take "credit" for something. Jsut get him off the TV and put him in jail for life.
 
EEEEEEEE! LOOK AT ME! I AM THE GRAND HI-JACKER! EEEEEEEEE! This guy couldn't get his own a$$ into the country. He has the Martyr complex ala GRANDO.
 
Guess that he doesn't want to miss his last chance to die a Martyr . . .


. . . or try to make the US Justice System appear foolish in the eyes of the world.


Playing to the over-reaction of a poarized jury pool.

'KILL HIM !
'THUMBS DOWN !'
LYNCH HIM !
'OFF WITH HIS HEAD !'
"HE SPOKE FRENCH !":shocked:
 
Originally posted by: slash196
I guess it's just my blind hatred for the government at this point, but I don't buy this at all.

LOL. Would you like some whine with your bullsh!t? Liberals like you have become so blind by their hatred for Bush it's scary!

But this is what should truly scare you:

"The Prophet says, 'war is deceit,' " Moussaoui later told prosecutor Robert Spencer. "You're allowed to lie for jihad. You're allowed any technique to defeat your enemy."

 
I thought flight 93's target was the white house

Now this guy saying something that is different.

wierd.
 
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
EEEEEEEE! LOOK AT ME! I AM THE GRAND HI-JACKER! EEEEEEEEE! This guy couldn't get his own a$$ into the country. He has the Martyr complex ala GRANDO.


I agree, both he and Reid come across as inept hijacker wannabee's. I find it curious that he claimed to know all 19 hijackers, but according to the BBC and sites like this at least 9 of the suspects are alive and well (weren't hijackers).
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: slash196
I guess it's just my blind hatred for the government at this point, but I don't buy this at all.

LOL. Would you like some whine with your bullsh!t? Liberals like you have become so blind by their hatred for Bush it's scary!

I'll assume your a conservative then...

I agree with GT, What if this is just a huge publicity/coverup stunt? I mean REALLY, why would this guy want to testify?

Humor me (and think about this for a sec...)

1. Guys a weak minded patsy, gives in to pressure, decides to testify...

OR

2. Why would the government want this guy to testify? Is it to calm the minds of the victims of NYC? Somehow I doubt that seems to be their motivation. Think = All the major networks are covering this like a hawk... So we'll (the govt) throw a guy up who was involved and "fill him" with information to make public.... Just a way to try to justify our (again, the govt) inability to act upon a situation which we were given. Make a huge hoopla about what was going on "inside the circle" and try to prove to the public it wasn't our (the govt') fault.

I don't know, but it seems to me people whom are as fanatic as the islamic terror organizations would have a code of honor somewhere. For all of you who believe everything that is being said in court and television is true, I feel for you.

Maybe I need to put my tinfoil hat on, but I tend to think outside the box.

*edit* My thoughts are not what many consider to be "concise" so please bear that in mind. That was your warning 🙂
 
Hijack a plane to fly into the White House? Shens. Though I have never flown a commercial airliner into a building, I would imagine the White House would be a pretty hard target for an unexperienced pilot to navigate and hit. I would think the Capital Building would be a much easier target. No?
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
I thought flight 93's target was the white house

Now this guy saying something that is different.

wierd.

Perhaps, but now that I think about the scenario a bit if he was to hijack a 5th plane, the plan when he was arrested may have been changed at that point. Whereas, as he states, he let the plan unfold, but he could have been the White House plane while flight 93 originally may have been set for the Capital Building. Since he was out of the plan at that point, they only had 4 targets to work with, thus 93 could have still been set for the WH. I?m not really sure how many capable pilots they had at that point.
 
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Originally posted by: OrByte
I thought flight 93's target was the white house

Now this guy saying something that is different.

wierd.

Perhaps, but now that I think about the scenario a bit if he was to hijack a 5th plane, the plan when he was arrested may have been changed at that point. Whereas, as he states, he let the plan unfold, but he could have been the White House plane while flight 93 originally may have been set for the Capital Building. Since he was out of the plan at that point, they only had 4 targets to work with, thus 93 could have still been set for the WH. I?m not really sure how many capable pilots they had at that point.


But weren't these guys supposed to be working in independent cells with little or no knowledge of each other, just with dates and targets?
 
Why let a little thing like a terrorist confession get in the way of the liberal agenda to blame 911 on Bush?
 
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Originally posted by: OrByte
I thought flight 93's target was the white house

Now this guy saying something that is different.

wierd.

Perhaps, but now that I think about the scenario a bit if he was to hijack a 5th plane, the plan when he was arrested may have been changed at that point. Whereas, as he states, he let the plan unfold, but he could have been the White House plane while flight 93 originally may have been set for the Capital Building. Since he was out of the plan at that point, they only had 4 targets to work with, thus 93 could have still been set for the WH. I?m not really sure how many capable pilots they had at that point.


But weren't these guys supposed to be working in independent cells with little or no knowledge of each other, just with dates and targets?

You got it. Blowing smoke all he's worth. On the radio just now, one of the :brokenheart:fireman's mom said to let him rot in jail.
 
Originally posted by: Kappo
Why let a little thing like a terrorist confession get in the way of the liberal agenda to blame 911 on Bush?

Why let a little thing like the facts get in the way of attributing random nonsense to the "liberal agenda"?
 
I think the man is a liar.

He was part of a plot...what really? who knows?

Flight 93 was probably Capital or White House. Both buildingsare relatively small but the White House would have been toast but the Capital building is stone so who knows what kind of damage that would have caused....

My guess is if those two would have been hit as well the nukes would have been flying.
 
I wonder how the tin-foilers can jibe this confession into their conspiracy theory? Shouldn't Zack M. be implicating the mass coordination they did with the CIA?
 
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