Motorola Hits 2GHz with Intel Powered RAZR i

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Puddle Jumper

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Ugh, why can't they sell any of these in the US.

Assuming it has an unlocked bootloader I wonder if you could get Windows 8 to dual boot on it.
 
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Pretty sure because in the United States, you need LTE as a selling point.

Intel doesn't have an LTE stack, yet. I'm not really that bummed out anyway, who wants a single-core nowadays, regardless of the singlethreaded performance? One of the nice things about dual-core is that if you have an app that hogs the CPU, the entire phone doesn't have to come to a grinding halt.


Now, the dual-core and 22nm refresh of Atom... That I'm excited about.
 
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From GSMArena: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_motoedge-review-816p3.php

It benches quite poorly, actually, but:

"For usability, it's pretty good. The Motorola Razr i XT890 is quite responsive and it performs very well when it comes to web browsing, switching between apps, even if there's something going on in the background (e.g. an app being installed).

The processor doesn't benchmark too well though, even with the clock speed increase. Single-threaded performance in Benchmark Pi is nothing spectacular. The Linpack score is pretty good for a single-core processor and Quadrant puts the RAZR i very close to the Atrix HD."
 
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In the engadget video, it stutters in OS navigation, but that's probably partially because it's running 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich not Jelly Bean.

However that SunSpider speed is very impressive. It's roughly 50% faster than Tegra 3 in this measure.

Plus it's a 61 mm wide phone with my preferred 4.3" screen size, not a ridiculous 5" screen, with > 70 mm phone width. To put it another way, this 4.3" phone is narrower than the iPhone 3G.

Unfortunately, it's 3G not LTE, and the screen is 540p, not 720p.
 
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podspi said:
I'm not really that bummed out anyway, who wants a single-core nowadays, regardless of the singlethreaded performance? One of the nice things about dual-core is that if you have an app that hogs the CPU, the entire phone doesn't have to come to a grinding halt.
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Intel supports hyperthreading, so a single core actually has two logical cores. Its quite possible for this single core chip to keep up with other multi core chips.
 
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Still not interested until Cloverfield and a dual core with the SGX544. For now the S4Pro still seems cream of the crop.
 
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Deeko said:
Intel supports hyperthreading, so a single core actually has two logical cores. Its quite possible for this single core chip to keep up with other multi core chips.
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Although that SunSpider bench is extremely impressive, I will note that the transition from Atom single-core to Atom dual-core in low power computing devices made a night day performance difference.

As alluded to earlier by podspi, I'd prefer a 22 nm dual-core 1.5 GHz Atom over a 32 nm single-core 2.0 GHz Atom Z2460.
 
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Reading previews now. Looks like it'll be the next gen (these are still 32nm parts, right?) 22nn chips that will get Intel fully into the game.
 
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ilkhan said:
Reading previews now. Looks like it'll be the next gen (these are still 32nm parts, right?) 22nn chips that will get Intel fully into the game.
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Yes, 32 nm. See my post above. I wonder what the ARM guys will do with 22 nm though...
 
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Eug said:
Although that SunSpider bench is extremely impressive, I will note that the transition from Atom single-core to Atom dual-core in low power computing devices made a night day performance difference.

As alluded to earlier by podspi, I'd prefer a 22 nm dual-core 1.5 GHz Atom over a 32 nm single-core 2.0 GHz Atom Z2460.
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Sure - I was more comparing the single core Atom chip to, say, its dual core ARM equivalent.
 
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"The RAZR i runs Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) although Google/Mototorla/Intel are committed to delivering 4.1 (Jelly Bean) as an upgrade at some point."

Nice try Motorola. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
 
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that some of the Razr I's performance are due to immature software optimizations too. Android has had 5 years of development on ARM designs. x86-Android is relatively new and still in diapers in the commercial market. With Intel delivering mobile chip designs that they can actually sell, I'd expect to see more optimization and work put into the x86 Android code.
 
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Chiropteran said:
"The RAZR i runs Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) although Google/Mototorla/Intel are committed to delivering 4.1 (Jelly Bean) as an upgrade at some point."

Nice try Motorola. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
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So, what's Motorola's history on this? Just wondering.

Bateluer said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that some of the Razr I's performance are due to immature software optimizations too. Android has had 5 years of development on ARM designs. x86-Android is relatively new and still in diapers in the commercial market. With Intel delivering mobile chip designs that they can actually sell, I'd expect to see more optimization and work put into the x86 Android code.
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I'm no programmer but...

If Intel on OS X is any indication, Intel has some of the best compiler guys in the industry. I betcha they'll rectify this quick.
 
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Bateluer said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that some of the Razr I's performance are due to immature software optimizations too. Android has had 5 years of development on ARM designs. x86-Android is relatively new and still in diapers in the commercial market. With Intel delivering mobile chip designs that they can actually sell, I'd expect to see more optimization and work put into the x86 Android code.
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I'd say it's more likely to be Motorola's bloatware being poorly optimized than Android itself. Intel has been working on x86 Android themselves for a couple of versions no and I imagine their stock builds run very well. I think the problem is OEMs are to stupid to take advantage of these stock builds and try to do it themselves, look at how Lg's incompetence has hurt the Optimus G compared to a S4 Pro running Qualcomm's reference build of Android.
 
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Yet they cant make a battery that lasts a whole day of real use.
Well, they could......
And they do. But its stuffed inside more powerful phones every year.

We really dont need excess processing power in our smartphones, what we need is efficiency and usability.
 
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shortylickens said:
Yet they cant make a battery that lasts a whole day of real use.
Well, they could......
And they do. But its stuffed inside more powerful phones every year.

We really dont need excess processing power in our smartphones, what we need is efficiency and usability.
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ghz sell
 
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T_Yamamoto said:
Isn't there a ICS ROM?
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Dunno, don't care anymore since I don't have the phone. I probably won't be buying another phone that isn't a nexus, so it doesn't matter to me anymore.

When I see Motorola promising OS updates in the article I just had to smirk.
 
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shortylickens said:
Dont even compare the two.

The Apple LOGO sells!
You could release a brick with an Apple on it and people would buy truckloads of them. For a hundred bucks each.
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Keep telling yourself that. Apple could sell a device that grants eternal life and you'll still keep spilling the same drivel about the Apple logo.
 
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