Motorcyclists unite!

[JulesMaximus]

So, just after lunch today HR sends out an e-mail company-wide asking motorcyclists to please not park their bikes in non-motorcycle designated parking spots. Well, one of our resident riders sent an e-mail politely asking for more designated motorcycle parking sports, and he bcc'd a bunch of riders, myself included, with the intent of politely proding some action. A few of us did so HR forwarded the request to facilities.

Once facilities had it the e-mails quickly grew to over 20 recipients and within 40 minutes facilities have committed to adding 6 more motorcycle only parking spots in front of the building. :thumbsup:

We have 15 spots designated for motorcycles only but they have been filling up and even though we have an upper parking lot nobody wants to park their bike there due to security concerns. That lot is out of sight of the main building and even though we have security cameras there have been break-ins up there.

There is power in numbers!

 

[jagec]

I love how people think that when a motorcycle is parked in a "car space", somehow that is rude and wasteful, whereas it's perfectly OK to park their single-driver ginormous SUV in a compact space.

Now, if there are motorcycle spaces that aren't being used I understand, but what's the big deal about parking a motorcycle in a car space? Easier for the drivers on both sides to get into and out of their cars, and if another motorcycle comes along they can share the space. Try THAT with a car.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I love how people think that when a motorcycle is parked in a "car space", somehow that is rude and wasteful, whereas it's perfectly OK to park their single-driver ginormous SUV in a compact space.

Now, if there are motorcycle spaces that aren't being used I understand, but what's the big deal about parking a motorcycle in a car space? Easier for the drivers on both sides to get into and out of their cars, and if another motorcycle comes along they can share the space. Try THAT with a car.

You know it was someone who was driving around looking for a spot and saw a motorcycle taking up an entire spot who complained. Despite the fact that we have probably fifty empty spots in the upper lot for cars to park.

 

[amish]

I like the analogy that jagec used. I'd tell HR to pound sand.

Do you all (motorcyclististisisistististists) park two bikes in one spot?

 

[EightySix Four]

The only problem I have with motorcyclists parking is when they don't park at the back of the spot. You're driving along and you're all excited about the empty spot... and then it's not empty.

 

[Kelvrick]

The only problem I have with motorcyclists parking is when they don't park at the back of the spot. You're driving along and you're all excited about the empty spot... and then it's not empty.

I purposely leave shopping carts deep inside parking spots just to F with people.

 

[EightySix Four]

I purposely leave shopping carts deep inside parking spots just to F with people.

You suck.

 

[Kelvrick]

You suck.

Haha. Just trolling. I hate when that happens to me. There is always that 2 seconds or so where I contemplate pushing it out of the way with my car as I park. Then I back out.

 

[JulesMaximus]

The only problem I have with motorcyclists parking is when they don't park at the back of the spot. You're driving along and you're all excited about the empty spot... and then it's not empty.

We park at the front of the spot because people who can't drive cut in too sharply and clip your bike knocking it over. I always park deep into a spot.

And yes, when I'm riding with friends we will usually park 2 or 3 bikes in one parking spot. At work we have motorcycle only parking but it has gotten to the point where people are parking their bikes in regular spots because there isn't enough motorcycle parking.

 

[Fenixgoon]

i wish my parking lot had bike spaces

 

[JulesMaximus]

i wish my parking lot had bike spaces

Maybe you should lobby for them to designate some. You can get 2 bikes to 1 car space so the company would be saving 1 extra space for a car for every motorcycle only spot they designate.

 

[BUTCH1]

If I rode a bike I would park it in the front of the space, that way some dumbass can't come screaming into the spot thinking it's empty and be to late to avoid hitting the bike..

 

[EightySix Four]

If I rode a bike I would park it in the front of the space, that way some dumbass can't come screaming into the spot thinking it's empty and be to late to avoid hitting the bike..

Yeah, this one is one of the things I was thinking about.

 

[z1ggy]

Our company has a specific section where only bikes can park...Which means you MUST park your bike there. Can of crappy because it's not as close to the main entrance as where I'd park my car, but oh well...Riding is more fun.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Have to agree that when there's no motorcycle spaces (or when the motorcycle spaces are full) it's ridiculous to expect motorcycles to avoid car spaces.

However, where I'm working this summer there are lots of motorcycle spots that are always open and I still see people parking bikes in car spaces (in a lot where the car spaces always fill up but the motorcycle spaces tend to stay fairly empty). That just bugs me, even as a rider.

ZV

 

[JulesMaximus]

This was the exact e-mail HR sent out.

All,

As a reminder, we have designated parking spots for motorcycles. If you ride a motorcycle, please use these designated spots instead of the regular parking spots. Link to the parking lot map showing designated spots is below for reference.

Sincerely,

Catbert
Evil HR Manager

Then she added this later:

We have a total of 15 parking spaces for motorcycles around the building. There is currently no plan to add additional spaces. If the 15 spaces are filled, there is additional parking available in the upper lot.

I know exactly why this became an issue. Someone couldn’t find a car space in the lower lot and while driving around they saw a motorcycle parked in “their” spot.

They reasoned out that if they can’t park in the motorcycle space, then the motorcycle can’t park in their space.

This is not good reasoning as they do not even consider that over 15 employees are only taking up 7-8 car spaces because they rode a motorcycle. At greater exposure to the weather and less safety/comfort for themselves.

Motorcycle spaces exist to allow more capacity for parking in the same space.

The e-mail HR sent contradicts itself.

“Motorcycles can only park in motorcycle spaces and not car spaces.”

“But if motorcycles spaces are full then you have to park in the upper lot”… IN A CAR SPACE…

What decides whether a person has to park in the upper or lower car lot is not whether they are in a car or motorcycle. It is that they got to work early enough to get a good spot… First come first served... Just like concerts and shopping malls and everywhere else.

The policy needs to be:

“Only motorcycles can park in motorcycle spaces” Because only motorcycles can fit.

“Motorcycles can park in all other spaces except for handicapped and visitor spaces.”

 

[Zenmervolt]

The policy needs to be:

“Only motorcycles can park in motorcycle spaces” Because only motorcycles can fit.

“Motorcycles can park in all other spaces except for handicapped and visitor spaces.”

I disagree.

The policy, IMO, should be, "Only motorcycles may park in motorcycle spaces, and if a motorcycle space is available a motorcycle must use the available motorcycle space. If there is no available motorcycle space, then a motorcycle may use any other space aside from handicapped or visitor spaces."

ZV

 

[Zap]

I love how people think that when a motorcycle is parked in a "car space", somehow that is rude and wasteful

The alternative, of course, is to have riders leave their motorcycles at home and drive their car... which would result in them taking up the same "car space" anyways! :hmm: But then people wouldn't complain, right? Amazing!

 

[JulesMaximus]

I disagree.

The policy, IMO, should be, "Only motorcycles may park in motorcycle spaces, and if a motorcycle space is available a motorcycle must use the available motorcycle space. If there is no available motorcycle space, then a motorcycle may use any other space aside from handicapped or visitor spaces."

ZV

Impossible to enforce. My way is better.

 

[J3S73R]

When used to ride (accident, no longer have a bike... boo, soon though another!) I would park in a motorcycle spot if it ws available. If not, a car spot but leave enough room that another rider could, if they wanted, also park there.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Impossible to enforce. My way is better.

No, your way is easier to enforce. That's not the same as "better."

If there is available motorcycle parking and a motorcycle uses a car spot, that's rude and worthy of the motorcyclist receiving a ticket.

ZV

 

[saratoga172]

No, your way is easier to enforce. That's not the same as "better."

If there is available motorcycle parking and a motorcycle uses a car spot, that's rude and worthy of the motorcyclist receiving a ticket.

ZV

Only problem I see with this is that I'm riding my bike and when I get to work there are no motorcycle spaces left. So I go find a car space. Under the policy I'm able to because motorcycle parking is full. Where the problem comes in is when a few motorcycles leave the motorcycle parking before I leave, thus leaving open motorcycle spots while I'm in a car spot.

Is there any real way to enforce this?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Only problem I see with this is that I'm riding my bike and when I get to work there are no motorcycle spaces left. So I go find a car space. Under the policy I'm able to because motorcycle parking is full. Where the problem comes in is when a few motorcycles leave the motorcycle parking before I leave, thus leaving open motorcycle spots while I'm in a car spot.

Is there any real way to enforce this?

In a lot without an attendant, it really can't be beyond expecting people to act like rational adults. With an attendant you could have motorcyclists get a permit if the motorcycle spots are full.

ZV

 

[JulesMaximus]

In a lot without an attendant, it really can't be beyond expecting people to act like rational adults. With an attendant you could have motorcyclists get a permit if the motorcycle spots are full.

ZV

We do that now. All the motorcycle parking is closer to the entrances than most of the car parking so why anyone would not park in a motorcycle spot unless there were none available is beyond me. My wording works best for this scenario.

No need for an attendant.

 

[RiDE]

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