Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Oh, you will. Trust me on that. I've owned an E36 and driven an E46, I much prefer our 2006 Lexus IS250 to either of them.
That's a really nice car, but I find Lexuses (and, for that matter, nearly all Toyotas, with the exception of the FJ Cruiser) awfully bloodless and dull. They are wonderfully engineered, but they seem really really uninspired - it's like they're obviously designed by committee - in that respect the new IS cars are, IMO, poorer than the old one. If they made an IS350 with manual transmission I'd give it a hard look, but ultimately I think I'd get a Bimmer instead.
test drive one of these, any gen will do.
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: EngenZerO
bah... mt is in bed with bmw...
If you assume that MT is in bed with BMW, so is every other auto magazine and website. BMW must be, by far, the winningest manufacturer since at least the 80s in these kinds of comparo tests. I think it's a function of the fact that a) BMW make cars that are really really great to drive; b) magazine writers, unlike individuals, don't have to pay for the cars; and c) the writers aren't around to pay for repairs when the cars are out of warranty.
Originally posted by: RiDE
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Oh, you will. Trust me on that. I've owned an E36 and driven an E46, I much prefer our 2006 Lexus IS250 to either of them.
That's a really nice car, but I find Lexuses (and, for that matter, nearly all Toyotas, with the exception of the FJ Cruiser) awfully bloodless and dull. They are wonderfully engineered, but they seem really really uninspired - it's like they're obviously designed by committee - in that respect the new IS cars are, IMO, poorer than the old one. If they made an IS350 with manual transmission I'd give it a hard look, but ultimately I think I'd get a Bimmer instead.
test drive one of these, any gen will do.
Yeah, then what?
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RiDE
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Oh, you will. Trust me on that. I've owned an E36 and driven an E46, I much prefer our 2006 Lexus IS250 to either of them.
That's a really nice car, but I find Lexuses (and, for that matter, nearly all Toyotas, with the exception of the FJ Cruiser) awfully bloodless and dull. They are wonderfully engineered, but they seem really really uninspired - it's like they're obviously designed by committee - in that respect the new IS cars are, IMO, poorer than the old one. If they made an IS350 with manual transmission I'd give it a hard look, but ultimately I think I'd get a Bimmer instead.
test drive one of these, any gen will do.
Yeah, then what?
Run over Aimster.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You forgot d) magazine writers must be blind because clearly the latest Bangled cars are some of the ugliest to come out of BMW in decades.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: NFS4
And your wallet. It'll be $40k+ and will likely equal or slightly beat the G35's acceleration numbers.
G35 for me!
I dunno - I drive a Maxima, but I think I'm done with Japanese cars for the time being. They just seem to lack personality (though Subarus still have some character IMO). My next car will likely be a 3-series or an E46 M3. They really do feel better to drive, and I'm willing to sacrifice some reliability in favor of performance and personality.
Oh, you will. Trust me on that. I've owned an E36 and driven an E46, I much prefer our 2006 Lexus IS250 to either of them.
Originally posted by: sniperruff
oh wait motor trend? the same motor trend that named the 2002 ford thunderbird COTY?
Originally posted by: sniperruff
oh wait motor trend? the same motor trend that named the 2002 ford thunderbird COTY?
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Originally posted by: sniperruff
oh wait motor trend? the same motor trend that named the 2002 ford thunderbird COTY?
Automptive press love this car. For the price point it was a great value and stylishly cool. 280HP RWD V8 w/ 5sp auto. Soft top + hard top for $40K
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Originally posted by: sniperruff
oh wait motor trend? the same motor trend that named the 2002 ford thunderbird COTY?
Automptive press love this car. For the price point it was a great value and stylishly cool. 280HP RWD V8 w/ 5sp auto. Soft top + hard top for $40K
Why? It looked cool but it was overpriced, underpowered, heavy, it only seats two and it didn't handle or brake particularly well.
So, we're left with: It looked cool. Wow, I'm so impressed. :roll:
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Originally posted by: sniperruff
oh wait motor trend? the same motor trend that named the 2002 ford thunderbird COTY?
Automptive press love this car. For the price point it was a great value and stylishly cool. 280HP RWD V8 w/ 5sp auto. Soft top + hard top for $40K
Why? It looked cool but it was overpriced, underpowered, heavy, it only seats two and it didn't handle or brake particularly well.
So, we're left with: It looked cool. Wow, I'm so impressed. :roll:
i thought the new t-birds were hideous....
Say WHAT?:roll:Originally posted by: TomKazansky
Besides, the g handles like a pig.
Originally posted by: NFS4
Say WHAT?:roll:Originally posted by: TomKazansky
Besides, the g handles like a pig.
Handles worse than an IS? Are you freaking kidding me?Originally posted by: TomKazansky
Originally posted by: NFS4
Say WHAT?:roll:Originally posted by: TomKazansky
Besides, the g handles like a pig.
It does handle like a pig; anything handles better than a g.
The 3 and the IS handles much, much better
Once you hit 80mph, it doesn't pull anymore. You can WOT and the car will just sit there.
The exhaust tone is one the worst, most annoying one ever. (for coupes)
The interior is just as nice as the Nissan Altima; no where near the IS or the 3.
Infiniti clock is one of the worst inventions ever
And IMO, it looks like crap compare to the 3 or the IS.
Bottom line - you get what you pay for - a POS.
The G coupe concept for 07/08 though is freaken nice, no doubt about it.
Originally posted by: NFS4
Handles worse than an IS? Are you freaking kidding me?Originally posted by: TomKazansky
Originally posted by: NFS4
Say WHAT?:roll:Originally posted by: TomKazansky
Besides, the g handles like a pig.
It does handle like a pig; anything handles better than a g.
The 3 and the IS handles much, much better
Once you hit 80mph, it doesn't pull anymore. You can WOT and the car will just sit there.
The exhaust tone is one the worst, most annoying one ever. (for coupes)
The interior is just as nice as the Nissan Altima; no where near the IS or the 3.
Infiniti clock is one of the worst inventions ever
And IMO, it looks like crap compare to the 3 or the IS.
Bottom line - you get what you pay for - a POS.
The G coupe concept for 07/08 though is freaken nice, no doubt about it.
The blood is in the water...I'll let the sharks have at ya
Originally posted by: EngenZerO
Originally posted by: NFS4
Handles worse than an IS? Are you freaking kidding me?Originally posted by: TomKazansky
Originally posted by: NFS4
Say WHAT?:roll:Originally posted by: TomKazansky
Besides, the g handles like a pig.
It does handle like a pig; anything handles better than a g.
The 3 and the IS handles much, much better
Once you hit 80mph, it doesn't pull anymore. You can WOT and the car will just sit there.
The exhaust tone is one the worst, most annoying one ever. (for coupes)
The interior is just as nice as the Nissan Altima; no where near the IS or the 3.
Infiniti clock is one of the worst inventions ever
And IMO, it looks like crap compare to the 3 or the IS.
Bottom line - you get what you pay for - a POS.
The G coupe concept for 07/08 though is freaken nice, no doubt about it.
The blood is in the water...I'll let the sharks have at ya
what... i love the exhaust tone... its one of the sexiest around...
Originally posted by: TomKazansky
BMWs has never been about HP. Besides, the g handles like a pig, and it barely has any top end.
To OP: The 335 should be faster than the IS350
