Motherboards?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Sammo123321

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I'm new to building computers, and I was wondering what does the motherboard actually do? Also, does anyone know any motherboards that would be compatible with the Antec Sonata case? Thank you for your time whoever reads this.
 

Hyperfocal

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The motherboard is the heart of the system.

It holds the CPU, memory, PCI bus and all the IO systems that make the computer run. Different types of CPUs need different motherboards, so you need a P4 motherboard for a P4 CPU and an Athlon64 MB for an Athlon64 CPU.

Any ATX form factor motherboard will work in an Antec Sonata. That would be almost any motherboard sold today.
 

RockV

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The Antec Sonata is designed for an ATX motherboard.

There are 3 additional ATX form factors, MiniATX, MicroATX and FlexATX, but these are all smaller and less common than the full size ATX.

You want the ATX.

I would suggest an ASUS motherboard. ASUS or ASUStek is the world's largest manufacturer of motherboards and they are very easy to configure and are very reliable.
 

DarkNephree

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Originally posted by: Sammo123321
I'm new to building computers, and I was wondering what does the motherboard actually do? Also, does anyone know any motherboards that would be compatible with the Antec Sonata case? Thank you for your time whoever reads this.

If you're just starting to build your own systems, my advice is to get an inexpensive (simple) motherboard. Meaning, you probably won't be doing any oc'ing and won't need a board w/ a lot of *special features. One recommendation: if you have a Fry's Electronics near you, take advantage of their motherboard/CPU combos. If I'm not mistaken, you can get an ECS K7VTA3 & AthlonXP2200+ for $80. That's not a bad setup for your 1st system. That's my advice, and of course I, myself, am still learning. Good luck Sammo
 

RobCur

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Originally posted by: RockV
The Antec Sonata is designed for an ATX motherboard.

There are 3 additional ATX form factors, MiniATX, MicroATX and FlexATX, but these are all smaller and less common than the full size ATX.

You want the ATX.

I would suggest an ASUS motherboard. ASUS or ASUStek is the world's largest manufacturer of motherboards and they are very easy to configure and are very reliable.
But any other mobo will do just as well thought, just that amd duron processor have this stupid default volt of 1.75 and thats too much and cause it to overheat even with decent cooling such as svc gv68, you will want mobo that have adjustable voltage allowing you to lower it to 1.55-1.6v
But for P4 mobo, i don't think this is a problem since you're paying more for it, intel has built in thermal protection... no heatsink attached and turned on? no problem.
cpu just run very very slow, LMAO!!!
AMD have not come out with anything like this yet because their just making cpu that smokes, cracks and thats why their cheap for that reason.
Don't get me wrong thought, intel is just alway one step ahead of AMD...
Amd could learn a lot from intel thought but so they really need to implement extra feature to protect their customer's investment who buys their CPU.

 

RockV

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My post made no reference to AMD vs Intel.

Was your post meant to rebut my post or have you just not figured out how this Forum works?
 

Sammo123321

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RobCur, what do you mean by the voltage and adjusting them?!?!?!?

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But any other mobo will do just as well thought, just that amd duron processor have this stupid default volt of 1.75 and thats too much and cause it to overheat even with decent cooling such as svc gv68, you will want mobo that have adjustable voltage allowing you to lower it to 1.55-1.6v
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JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Sammo123321
RobCur, what do you mean by the voltage and adjusting them?!?!?!?

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But any other mobo will do just as well thought, just that amd duron processor have this stupid default volt of 1.75 and thats too much and cause it to overheat even with decent cooling such as svc gv68, you will want mobo that have adjustable voltage allowing you to lower it to 1.55-1.6v
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RobCur barely has a grasp of the English language.

Please don't elaborate.:D
 

compudog

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Originally posted by: RobCur
I would suggest an ASUS motherboard. ASUS or ASUStek is the world's largest manufacturer of motherboards and they are very easy to configure and are very reliable. But any other mobo will do just as well thought, just that amd duron processor have this stupid default volt of 1.75 and thats too much and cause it to overheat even with decent cooling such as svc gv68, you will want mobo that have adjustable voltage allowing you to lower it to 1.55-1.6v
But for P4 mobo, i don't think this is a problem since you're paying more for it, intel has built in thermal protection... no heatsink attached and turned on? no problem.
cpu just run very very slow, LMAO!!!
AMD have not come out with anything like this yet because their just making cpu that smokes, cracks and thats why their cheap for that reason.
Don't get me wrong thought, intel is just alway one step ahead of AMD...
Amd could learn a lot from intel thought but so they really need to implement extra feature to protect their customer's investment who buys their CPU.


Please... no more advice. RobCur ;)




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Hyperfocal

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Sammo123321,

As long as you take the time to learn how to build a computer before you start and are careful as you work, you shouldn't have any problems.

RobCur just burned up a CPU and is now down on AMD processors.

Just don't rush out and buy a bunch of stuff you think you want and don't understand. You can get a great computer using either AMD or Intel processors and can get great results from almost any of the better motherboard manufacturers. Make sure you know what you need your computer to do and then get the parts that will accomplish that goal.

There are alot of resources on the net that will take you through a complete build step by step. Spend the time to research and then work carefully. Building your own systems can be a lot of fun and can save some money.

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CPU voltages: CPUs run at very low voltages that are controlled by the motherboard. Most AMDs have a default of 1.65v, but you can raise the voltage so the CPU will be stable at faster than stock speeds. This leads to higher temperatures. With a good heat sink, it is safe to run a CPU at a higher voltage as long as it doesn't get too hot. ( there are diagnostic utilities that will give the temp in Windows.)

Unless you are trying to overclock your CPU, there is no need to raise the CPU voltage.

Apparently, the default voltage on some motherboards is 1.75v which can cause the CPU to run too hot when the heatsink is not properly fastened to the socket.

Of course, if the heat sink is not properly fastened, a CPU can overheat at any voltage. Many modern motherboards have heat protection built in and will shut down before the CPU is damaged.
 

sumrtym

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I don't know that's so much the case. I'm not a big fan of AMD chips either for that same overheating protection issue. All that it takes is a failed CPU fan and you not around and that AMD chip can burn up on you. Not the case with the Intel, and the one major reason I always chose Intel over AMD. Small reason, but a very valid one.
 

Sammo123321

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So why do AMD chips overheat more often than Intel? Is it there size? Or they don't have enough cooling vents or whatever?
 

Brody8877

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Do you Have a Power Supply in your Case, and is it compatible with P4 boards or AMD boards, but you can always replace it. If you dont have one then is your choice to pick your own motherboard.
 

Brody8877

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Originally Posted By:sumrtym
I'm not a big fan of AMD chips either for that same overheating protection issue. All that it takes is a failed CPU fan and you not around and that AMD chip can burn up on you. Not the case with the Intel, and the one major reason I always chose Intel over AMD. Small reason, but a very valid one.

I agree with him.
Yes I am not Big fan of AMD either
 

pspada

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Ummm, every AMD chip and mobo combo I've used has automatic shutdown if the cpu overheats. Of course that does include having the hsf installed and working properly to begin with - otherwise the CPU could overheat enough to damage the chip before it was able to shut down.