Motherboards that have AGP and PCI-E

L337Llama

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I was wondering if there are any rumors or possibilities of socket 939 motherbaords being made that have AGP and PCI-E. It'd be kinda like those boards that have sd-ram and ddr slots on them, or the boards with socket 754 and 939 on them.

Just something I'm wondering about, because I want to upgrade my videocard now on an Athlon XP system which has to be AGP, although in a year id like to upgrade the rest of it to 939 and maybe keep the card till I can upgrade to somehting with PCI-e and not have to change boards.

Would something like that be a good idea anyway?
 

ChineseDemocracyGNR

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There some "fake" AGP slots which you should avoid at all costs. There is a possibility that VIA will release a chipset supporting both AGP and PCI-E, but that's just a possibility now.
 

tallman45

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Gigabyte makes a GA-8I915P Duo-A which looks like it has both.

It also has both DDr and DDR2 slots so this may be what you are looking for
 

KDKPSJ

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As ChineseDemocracyGNR stated, never get the one with fake-AGP. GA-8I915P Duo-A is one of them as well. Its AGP uses *normal* PCI bus, which is like half speed of AGP1X. Therefore, no matter how super-duper graphic card you plug in it, it'll only perform like it was PCI graphic card that was available long time ago.

That's an example for Intel. For AMD, VIA (and nVidia as well, but I am not sure) one time said they would produce the one you want. (PCI-E and real AGP) But that was it. There has been no official announce or roadmap available about it yet. You don't have to worry about DDR/DDR2 for AMD, since AMD announced they will support DDR2 somewhere around 2006 (and chipset has nothing to do with it, since A64 has integrated memory controller). So until that, you are safe.
 

ChineseDemocracyGNR

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VIA has the PT880 Pro for Intel processors in their roadmap with native AGP and PCI-E support. Nothing for AMD, but here's what VIA has to say about it:

?While we do not comment on certain specific documents or plans, I can say that, based on the feedback we have received from the our customers, we have decided to develop a number of different variants of the PT890 Series and K8T890 Series chipset cores with different feature sets targeted at specific segments of the market? We are continuing engineering work on the AGP/PCI Express implementation and will be integrating this feature in future products in both the PT890 Series and K8T890 Series so that we can provide our customers with a complete family of solutions for different segments rather than a single ?one-size-fits-all? PT890 and K8T890 product?

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Don't count on it though, it may happen or it may not. :)
 

Thermalrock

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why can ppl spend 400-600 dollars twice a year on video cards but not buy one 100$ motherboard more than they would have if there was no agp to pcie switch? doesnt make sense to me. if your video card is still top notch and too expensive to buy a second time with pcie interface why not buy a via 800 or nforce3 board and then later in half a year when you upgrade your videocard a pcie board. theyre gonna be cheaper then anyway. i dont get the big deal.