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Motherboard switch worth it?

Cygnus X1

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For a novice like myself, how much of a headache will it be to switch my current motherboard that is in my Sonata case with the eVGA motherboard from there combo deal?

I have never done it and will it be a headache to disconnect everything, re-set the new motherboard, repaste AC5 on my 3200+, reformat, etc....

The list goes on and on. Is it worth it? Please remember I have never done this before. It's either buy this combo deal now and throw caution to the wind? Or stay with what I have until AM2...

 
I imagine that a motherboard swap would not be too much trouble, since you already have memory, hard drives, CD/DVD etc. It might be a pain though to reinstall your OS and all your applications. Is there something wrong with you current motherboard? The Asus A8V Deluxe does not strike me as being very old. If it were me I would not bother. I have an A8V and don't have any performance issues with it.
 
You would only need to do a repair install of windows XP, re-installing everything isnt neccisary. Unless it still dosent work after a repair install 😛 never happened to me though.

Also consider this. With every new socket that comes out, there are problems and faults with the first few motherboards and it takes a while for the bugs to be ironed out, somtimes the socket itsself is just abandoned for somthing better, sockets 423 or 754 ring a bell anyone? Socket 939 is mature and everything has been ironed out with it, i wouldnt wait for M2.
 
Originally posted by: halfpower
I imagine that a motherboard swap would not be too much trouble, since you already have memory, hard drives, CD/DVD etc. It might be a pain though to reinstall your OS and all your applications. Is there something wrong with you current motherboard? The Asus A8V Deluxe does not strike me as being very old. If it were me I would not bother. I have an A8V and don't have any performance issues with it.

No My A8V has no issues and runs fine. I want to get a better graphics card, at the same time get my moneys worth. However, I don't want to have alot of trouble doing it. I imagine taking the heatsink off my 3200, cleaning it, re-pasting it with ac5 will be the most difficult.

Anyone else here have a Sonata case? Is is easy to work with? Remember Monarch built me this computer and I have only done minor work on it. Taking out the motherboard seems like completely rebuilding it. Am I wrong?
 
Re-applying the thermal paste is pretty simple once you've done it. The part that irritates me the most these days is putting in the (stock) heatsink. Intel's are a lot easier to work with in this respect; I hope that AM2's are a big improvement. Not a huge problem, and sometimes you get lucky and it goes straight in, but often it's harder than it should be.

When it's all said and done, none of this is really hard, but there's a fair bit to do, and it can be easy to screw up a part installation (e.g. reverse IDE connectors, case connectors in wrong orientation / pins, floppy power connector misaligned, memory not seated properly, etc., etc.) -- these can, but typically will not do any damage, but will cost you some time and frustration in diagnosing and resolving. Experience helps. The only way to get experience is to do it.

Installing a new MB is about as close as you can get to rebuilding an entire system -- the main difference is that you're not installing a bunch of new unknown parts, but are installing stuff that had worked in the past. You will need to do a OS repair, including re-applying all the patches (which should be automatic over time), but this is easier than re-installing an OS and apps from scratch..

In the HW setup, you're best to adopt a very simple set-up methodology -- get the basics in - power, CPU, RAM, video, case connectors -- start up. Does it start? If so, power down again, switch off the power supply, and go further. If not, then at least you won't have to disconnect the drives, other cards, etc., to figure localize the problem further.

Another option is to buy the parts from a local store that will install it for you for a moderate price. It gets easier with experience, and stores doing the installation can save themselves some of the hassles from returns. Here, local stores are very competively priced with online retailers, assuming you don't go for "name-brand" retailers with their mark-ups.
 
Originally posted by: Madwand1
Re-applying the thermal paste is pretty simple once you've done it. The part that irritates me the most these days is putting in the (stock) heatsink. Intel's are a lot easier to work with in this respect; I hope that AM2's are a big improvement. Not a huge problem, and sometimes you get lucky and it goes straight in, but often it's harder than it should be.

When it's all said and done, none of this is really hard, but there's a fair bit to do, and it can be easy to screw up a part installation (e.g. reverse IDE connectors, case connectors in wrong orientation / pins, floppy power connector misaligned, memory not seated properly, etc., etc.) -- these can, but typically will not do any damage, but will cost you some time and frustration in diagnosing and resolving. Experience helps. The only way to get experience is to do it.

Installing a new MB is about as close as you can get to rebuilding an entire system -- the main difference is that you're not installing a bunch of new unknown parts, but are installing stuff that had worked in the past. You will need to do a OS repair, including re-applying all the patches (which should be automatic over time), but this is easier than re-installing an OS and apps from scratch..

In the HW setup, you're best to adopt a very simple set-up methodology -- get the basics in - power, CPU, RAM, video, case connectors -- start up. Does it start? If so, power down again, switch off the power supply, and go further. If not, then at least you won't have to disconnect the drives, other cards, etc., to figure localize the problem further.

Another option is to buy the parts from a local store that will install it for you for a moderate price. It gets easier with experience, and stores doing the installation can save themselves some of the hassles from returns. Here, local stores are very competively priced with online retailers, assuming you don't go for "name-brand" retailers with their mark-ups.

Thanks! :cookie:

I think I might just go the easy way out and buy the 7800GS. {DUCK AND COVERS}It just seems like a huge hassle. And if you say is true about AM2 possibly being easier install, than maybe I'll wait for that to be my first complete build.
 
I dont know, The only reason I dont change my damaged Soyo P4 Dragon is because I'm scared to death of removing the heatsing. It was a PAIN to put on, and I see no way of getting it off safely without damage. I cant even get the clips to remove without putting on more pressure than i care to.
 
I have found with heatsinks that they are a royal pain to work with but don't think they would prevent me from pullin a cpu.



Will G.
 
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I dont know, The only reason I dont change my damaged Soyo P4 Dragon is because I'm scared to death of removing the heatsing. It was a PAIN to put on, and I see no way of getting it off safely without damage. I cant even get the clips to remove without putting on more pressure than i care to.

So is this a good reason to also buy a new cpu?😉 If so what cpu is the best bang for the buck right now? How much could I get for my A8V+3200+ together?
 
hell the A64 heatsinks are a joy compared to the socket A heatsinks, now their was a heatsink that would make you think twice about replacing a heatsink!!
 
Originally posted by: hclarkjr
hell the A64 heatsinks are a joy compared to the socket A heatsinks, now their was a heatsink that would make you think twice about replacing a heatsink!!

I want to reuse the heatsink after I clean it off. Is this a good idea or should I buy a new heatsink? Hell if I'm gonna buy a new heatsink may as well buy a new cpu.
 
if you are happy with it, yes clean it off. easy to do. just get some 90-100% alcohol and some cuetips and clean it off. be sure to let them dry before reapplying your AS5 or other thermal paste
 
Originally posted by: Cygnus X1
I want to reuse the heatsink after I clean it off. Is this a good idea or should I buy a new heatsink? Hell if I'm gonna buy a new heatsink may as well buy a new cpu.

Once you start with Arctic Silver 5 and whatever you use to clean it (e.g. ArctiClean), you'll see how easy it is and not worry about it much. Makes no sense to throw out a good HS needlessly, though it could feel nice to throw it against a wall at times.

Much like the MB swap. After you've done one, it's not difficult, although there are occasional frustrations.
 
really not too hard, but the sonata is not a big case, so you may have to take out hdds, not sure their arrangement.

also, imo the only way to change out the skt A and xp hsf was to take out the m/b since you usually had to put a lot of pressure on them. that is why on my current rig i switched to a zalman, no pressure. also, yes the P4s attaching setup was nice, until they would break and then you would need to take out the m/b and replace the backplate.

op - don't get a 7800gs, if you need to, get a 939 pci-e board and get a 7800gt, better use of $$$$
 
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