Motherboard for Coroe...hmmm

[DragonShizzle]

I am planning to go from amd to intel, upgrading my Athlon 64bit 3200+ to the Intel Conroe E6600, when it is released. Now I found a motherboard that should be compatible with the new proc and seems to be compatible with my RAM/Video card too.


Can you guys take a look real quick and see if it should all work properly together, meaning mainly just the RAM, I've heard some bad things about intel and pc3200 RAM...


FIRST, here is the motherboard I am going to be getting


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157092



My system now

Video Card: AGP NVidia 6800 Ultra


RAM: OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM

DDR400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered DualChannel


Processor to be replaced: AMD Athlon 64bit 3200+


Motherboard to be replaced: SOLTEK SL-K8TPro-939 Socket 939 VIA

K8T800 Pro ATX

 

[MBrown]

I dont think the MB you want is Conroe Compatible.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: MBrown
I dont think the MB you want is Conroe Compatible.

Yes it is compatable...check out the "manufacturer" link on newegg.

ASROCK CPU support

# LGA 775 for Intel® Dual Core Pentium® XE and Pentium® D / Pentium® 4 / Celeron® D, supporting Conroe, Presler and Cedar Mill processors

 

[Henny]

I'd never use a MB with a VIA chipset!!

Bite the bullet and get a board using an Intel 965 or 975 NB and get DDR2 memory. Sell your old DDR on Ebay while there's still a market.

Your proposed system is equivalent of putting a Corvette engine in an Aztek.

I really doubt this bd supports Conroe despite what AS Rock claims!

Take a look at the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3. It's looking pretty good at this point and is about $140.

 

[MBrown]

^Id also recommend the Gigabyte. Even if you do get this Asrock, im pretty sure if you decided to put a conroe in it you would have to use DDRII.

 

[DragonShizzle]

hmm alright, well this kinda sucks....that board u showed doesn't have an AGP slot...lol which would require a new video card too!! SOB, I really want to wait for dx10 cards for pcie, and as you can see with ASRock it has AGP and PCIE... Wth should I do guys? I have about $1,000 right now, don't want to use all of it, but what should I do???

 

[DragonShizzle]

Okay, well shoot.

http://cgi.ebay.com/OCZ-DDR2-2GB-PC2-64...WQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

that looks like a good deal, and then selling mine on there for possibly $130-$150

then just getting the ASRock mobo, keeping my video card I have now, and getting the E6600, and waiting for the DX10 cards to get a new mobo and video card.


How does that sound???

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: Henny
I'd never use a MB with a VIA chipset!!

Bite the bullet and get a board using an Intel 965 or 975 NB and get DDR2 memory. Sell your old DDR on Ebay while there's still a market.

Your proposed system is equivalent of putting a Corvette engine in an Aztek.

I really doubt this bd supports Conroe despite what AS Rock claims!

Take a look at the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3. It's looking pretty good at this point and is about $140.

Oh yeah, a VIA chipset....it will blow up as soon as the power is turned on :roll:

As for it NOT supporting Conroe even though it states it does...umm...isnt that like some kind of false advertising and can be sued for it? Yeah, I think so. So I dont think they are going to be doing anything like that. Will a VIA chipset give the performance of a 965/975 board? No! But it will help those with budget constraints.

 

[DragonShizzle]

uhh, this sucks I didn't know that, can you guys find me then a decent/not overpriced board that is agp, and conroe compatible....agp+PCIe if possible (doubt it).

I'll be back in 30.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: DragonShizzle
hmm alright, well this kinda sucks....that board u showed doesn't have an AGP slot...lol which would require a new video card too!! SOB, I really want to wait for dx10 cards for pcie, and as you can see with ASRock it has AGP and PCIE... Wth should I do guys? I have about $1,000 right now, don't want to use all of it, but what should I do???

If I were you and I didnt want to spend the whole grand, I would get the ASROCK and a Conroe and reuse what you already have. You have stated that you wanted to wait for DX10, if you buy a VC now, it wont be and you know that...but many (if not all) of the upper tier boards have no AGP support. So you have one of two choices here my friend:

#1. Buy ASROCK Mobo and Conroe CPU + reuse what you have

#2. Buy a 965/975 Mobo, Conroe CPU, DDRII RAM, PCI-E Graphics card

But if I were you, I'd splurge, buy all the up to date stuff now.....worry about the DX 10 cards later.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: DragonShizzle
uhh, this sucks I didn't know that, can you guys find me then a decent/not overpriced board that is agp, and conroe compatible....agp+PCIe if possible (doubt it).

I'll be back in 30.

That ASROCK is the ONLY one.

 

[Techie333]

According to some reviewers on newegg, that ASROCK board has PCI x4 NOT PCI x16 slot. But I wonder how much that would hinder something like a radeon x850? Anybody know because I'm thinking about getting that same board to use with a Pentium D 805 and don't have time to wait for a Conroe or will switch it later.

 

[Techie333]

From ASROCK SITE:

Question: If I use Conroe 1066-CPU on 775Dual-VSTA. What kind of memory should I use?(5/24/2006)

Answer:If the BIOS version is P1.00, we recommend to use DDR400 and DDRII667 memory module; however, BIOS version is P1.10 and later can support DDR400, DDRII533 and DDRII667, so if you will use DDRII533 modules on your system, we suggest you update bios to P1.10 or later version.

 

[Henny]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Henny
I'd never use a MB with a VIA chipset!!

Bite the bullet and get a board using an Intel 965 or 975 NB and get DDR2 memory. Sell your old DDR on Ebay while there's still a market.

Your proposed system is equivalent of putting a Corvette engine in an Aztek.

I really doubt this bd supports Conroe despite what AS Rock claims!

Take a look at the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3. It's looking pretty good at this point and is about $140.

Oh yeah, a VIA chipset....it will blow up as soon as the power is turned on :roll:

As for it NOT supporting Conroe even though it states it does...umm...isnt that like some kind of false advertising and can be sued for it? Yeah, I think so. So I dont think they are going to be doing anything like that. Will a VIA chipset give the performance of a 965/975 board? No! But it will help those with budget constraints.

Will it work - maybe. Will it be stable, well supported, compatable with mainstream H/W and S/W, OC'able, have BIOS maturity? Will he find quick answers to the multitude of unique issues he could face or will this orphan leave him high and dry?

I've taken a journey into "VIA hell" and I don't plan to repeat it.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: Henny

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Henny
I'd never use a MB with a VIA chipset!!

Bite the bullet and get a board using an Intel 965 or 975 NB and get DDR2 memory. Sell your old DDR on Ebay while there's still a market.

Your proposed system is equivalent of putting a Corvette engine in an Aztek.

I really doubt this bd supports Conroe despite what AS Rock claims!

Take a look at the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3. It's looking pretty good at this point and is about $140.

Oh yeah, a VIA chipset....it will blow up as soon as the power is turned on :roll:

As for it NOT supporting Conroe even though it states it does...umm...isnt that like some kind of false advertising and can be sued for it? Yeah, I think so. So I dont think they are going to be doing anything like that. Will a VIA chipset give the performance of a 965/975 board? No! But it will help those with budget constraints.

Will it work - maybe. Will it be stable, well supported, compatable with mainstream H/W and S/W, OC'able, have BIOS maturity? Will he find quick answers to the multitude of unique issues he could face or will this orphan leave him high and dry?

I've taken a journey into "VIA hell" and I don't plan to repeat it.

Yes there are other factors other than money when it comes to mobo's, support for one....for some reason that didnt really cross my mind. IIRC Via has a bad history with updating drivers and fixing bugs. And after searching for info to see if it actually supports PCI-e x16 or PCI-E x4 , they were VERY vague. "Check the support list" but no mention speed. Yeah OP, drop down the cash and get something better. Buying quality will make you happy in the long run. :thumbsup: there Henny,, good call

 

[DragonShizzle]

Thnx a helluvalot guys, one question, is there any card that is close in comparison with my eVGA 6800 ultra, that is PCIe, and close in price too(possible to sell mine and buy it without losing too much money)

 

[NewBlackDak]

If you really want to wait on video then buy the board, and the CPU. When you find a deal on some good DDRII get it, and sell your DDR.
You can buy a PCIe video card when you decide on one.
The enthusiast boards might be mature, and maybe getting second revisions depending in how long you wait. You can buy a new board at the same time, or take a little more time to stagger the cost a little.

$1000 will go a long way though, and your parts are still new enough right now that you could get some decent return out of them on the forums or eBay.

 

[DragonShizzle]

Hmmmm, okay this is what I'm probably buying, check it all out plz


Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128012



Proc: E6600, Conroe blah blah best bang for it's buck in about a week



Videocard: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=321999

I don't like ATI, but seems to be the best price for how good it is...



RAM: ....I cannot decide between these 3

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85236

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85237

http://cgi.ebay.com/OCZ-DDR2-2GB-PC2-64...WQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting


Check it over guys, and tell me if there are any better prices/anything, thnx!!!!

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: DragonShizzle
Hmmmm, okay this is what I'm probably buying, check it all out plz


Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128012



Proc: E6600, Conroe blah blah best bang for it's buck in about a week



Videocard: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=321999

I don't like ATI, but seems to be the best price for how good it is...



RAM: ....I cannot decide between these 3

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85236

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85237

http://cgi.ebay.com/OCZ-DDR2-2GB-PC2-64...WQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting


Check it over guys, and tell me if there are any better prices/anything, thnx!!!!

Mobo is fine, but I would get these different:

RAM

Video Card From the reviews it seems to unlock to 16 pipes

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: DragonShizzle
uhh, this sucks I didn't know that, can you guys find me then a decent/not overpriced board that is agp, and conroe compatible....agp+PCIe if possible (doubt it).

I'll be back in 30.

Sorry thats not going to happen at all!
From a marketing point of view.
A mobo that supports Conroe and has an AGP slot is just foolish!!

 

[DragonShizzle]

Okay, thanks guys for all of that.

 

[acegazda]

I think the list of compatable procs is here\ for the asrock board. All 965p chip boards and SOME 975x boards will support c2d.

 

[DragonShizzle]

For which board??? I'm not getting the asrock anymore, read the thread.

 

[acegazda]

Originally posted by: DragonShizzle
For which board??? I'm not getting the asrock anymore, read the thread.

don't blow up on me, you mistakenly thought that the asrock was compatable with c2d. I was correcting you with proof. You'll learn that you can't just keep posting whatever someone else has already said in a thread, I have similar thoughts on this topic as pcsurgeon adn techie333 so instead of uselessly repeating info, I clarified something that you obviously missed....
...and i did read the thread.

EDIT: Welcome to the forum. Here's your smiley.

 

[Localan]

As a correction, the reason he "thought" it was supported is because it states it plainly on the main product page, and on the screenprinting shown on the motherboard itself. http://www.asrock.com/product/775Dual-VSTA.htm. It was also posed in question form from their website as quoted by techie333.

Didn't matter though, because he had already posted that he was going to use a different board. You will soon learn that many motherboard/RAM manufacturers' compatibility lists are woefully out of date, especially prior to an official product release.

Can I have a smiley now? I never got one before.