Motherboard Compatibility help??

nanda_123

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I Have a hp pavilion t730i desktop pc which is quite old and My motherboard specs are http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...c=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&product=435853#N577 which is not working but the p4 processor is good and i want to buy a new motherboard from india and i dont know a lot about motherboard but i want to know which motherboards are compatible with my cpu and what to look for when buying one and give me some affordable and latest motherboards
and which of these motherboards are suitable for my pc in flipkart or other sites
http://www.flipkart.com/computers/computer-components/motherboards/pr?p[0]=sort%3Dprice_asc&sid=6bo%2Cg0i%2Cy7i&layout=grid
 

VirtualLarry

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"latest motherboards" does not really apply here. You have a semi-ancient CPU.

You might consider upgrading your whole platform, if you have to buy a new mobo.
 

nanda_123

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any ideas on old motherboards which fit my cpu specs..and i have a lappie so buying a new one now is not an option
 

Harvey

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Here are the specs for your machine. Your CPU is a single core Pentium 4 515, the RAM is DDR, and unless you added more RAM, you have only 256 MB, much of which is shared by the onboard video. If you haven't added a bigger hard drive, yours is only 80 GB, which isn't much by current standards.

All things considered, it would cost you less to buy a completely new setup with much better performance because:

1. You could gain a lot of performance by bumping the RAM up to 4 GB. Windows XP can use up to 3 GB, and the rest would be available to the onboard video without taking any away from memory available for applications. However, PC3200 DDR RAM is MUCH slower and MUCH more expensive than the current DDR3 form factor.

You could accomplish a similar gain by installing only 2 - 3 GB of RAM and a separate, inexpensive PCI-e video card, but the cost would be about the same and certainly not worth the investment.

On a good day (sale prices) in a high volume U.S. market, you're looking at $100 or more for either option.

2. If you intend to use your current case, you will encounter several problems trying to install a new motherboard in it.

Like most motherboards used in "department store" packaged computers (HP, Dell, etc.) use a 9 pin header to connect to the front panel switches and LED's. Most separate motherboards use a different arrangement for these front panel connections that anticipates separate wire pairs with independent 1 - 4 pin connectors.

Unless you find a motherboard with the 9 pin connector, either you will have to find an after-market adapter (rare and expensive), or you will have to cut off the 9 pin connector from the front panel and attach independent connectors to each of the wire pairs to connect them to the new board.

It can be done if you have soldering skills and you know what you're doing, but it's a lot of work. If you don't know how to do this, the money a qualified tech would probably charge would be better spent on a new system.

2. These same "department store" computers almost always include undersized power supplies. I'd be suprised if the one that came with your machine was more than 250 watts, and it's around six years old. It was barely adequate for its purpose when it was new, and you have no way of knowing how much longer it will last.

3. The license for Windows is attached to your machine so unless you replace the motherboard with another similar HP board that will accept your serial number, the copy of Windows in your CD recovery disk set will not install, and you will need a new copy of Windows.

Sorry, but it isn't worth the cost or effort to ressurect an old, underpowered pile of components in need of a motherboard.
 

VirtualLarry

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The motherboard might not even be the problem. It could be the PSU or HDD, and less likely, the RAM.

I would try borrowing a known-good test PSU, and connect the first.
 

nanda_123

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Thank you guys for replying and i called tech support and they tell the motherboard is the problem and a component in it has shorted and he also found a compatible motherboard which looks exactly the same from ASrock(Around 50$) but the problem is my smps has a 12 pin connector but the motherboard has a 8 pin power supply connector so it wont power on ....and he is now telling me to replace the PSU and is it a genuine motherboard or a duplicate from a local brand and do original motherboards have a 8 pin connector..Any intel on that guys?
 
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SPBHM

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8 pin? only high end boards would have the additional 8 pin and not only 4 pin for the CPU...

you should really replace everything but you could buy a G41 motherboard from Gigabyte or any other (check before buying if the bios support your P4 515), and some cheap DDR3 (2-4GB), and it should be OK, keeping the rest.
 

nanda_123

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asrock-g41c-gs-400x400-imadfphh3hutqgjz.jpeg

the pin next to the red thing is 12 but of my motherboard is 8 and the PSU has a 12 pin connector ...
 

SPBHM

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this is standard ATX 24 pin + 4


it should work with older PSUs with 20 + 4.

the only red I see is on the sata ports, and next to it there is nothing related to the PSU connection!?

maybe you are talking about the front USB or the case connection (power led, power button...)
 

Harvey

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asrock-g41c-gs-400x400-imadfphh3hutqgjz.jpeg

the pin next to the red thing is 12 but of my motherboard is 8 and the PSU has a 12 pin connector ...

I don't think that's the right motherboard. HP's specs page for your machine lists the motherboard model as Grouper-GL8E. Their page for this motherboard shows the make and model as ASUS PTGD1-LA, not an Asrock board. Here's a pic from HP's page:

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This is an entirely different board with three PCI slots and one PCI-e x 16 slot, as opposed to your image of an Asrock board with two PCI slots, one PCI-e x 16 slot and one PCI-e x 1 slot.

Of course, this is subject to HP's statement on the motherboard page:

NOTE: Motherboard specifications are subject to change without notice.

Note that the rear panel connectors are entirely different so they wouldn't line up with the openings in the back panel of your case.

Trying to help, but for all of the reasons I listed, previously, I still think you'll get better performance for less money and a lot fewer headaches by going for a new machine.

Good luck. :)
 

tweakboy

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My dads old rig before Sandy Bridge was a Pentium D dual core with a hard drive.

OMG was it slow, you couldn't do anything on that computer. Your waisting money trying to revive that old tech. For 200 you can buy CPU and mobo, and another 20 for RAM and your set.. gl
 

nanda_123

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That is not my board (just an example) but i wanted to ask the pin side to the red thing is 8 for power supply on my motherboard but on most motherboard as in the example but do motherboards have a 8pin power supply