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MOTHER $#@%ER!! DAMN RAID 0!!!

SinNisTeR

Diamond Member
why me?! my dont computers like me? did i ever throw a bucket of water into one? no!

why must raid break on me? can some one answer this? should i give up raid 0 and go to raid 1?
 
RAID 1 is only good if you want redundant safety.

ie: You have totally critical data that you want to be mirrored 100% of the time.

Otherwise, you want RAID 0/1 or RAID 5

If you are using an oinboard IDE RAID controller, you probably wont be able to do RAID 5.

Question...why do you want RAID? are you running a server where you need super fast disk access? Are you using SCSI RAID or IDE RAID?

Basically, IMNSHO, RAID 0 on an IDE controller is a recipe for disaster.
 
yes, i know what raid 1 is.. it gets soooo frustrating tweaking/installing windows and my programs that sometimes i think.... hmmm is the performance difference worth it?

Adul.. ive been living on the edge 🙂
 


<< with raid 0 you live on the edge 😉 >>



He jumped over when he left the bucket of water outside the pc and not pour it in. 😀
 

sorry for your bad luck,
but those onboard-raid-controllers are simply not a feature, they just mean trouble and frustration (sooner or later).

and for all that work you put in an installation and the tweaking of your OS, why don't you create an image and store it on CD.
 


<< Um... what is the problem you're having with RAID 0, exactly? >>




broken stripe.. i dont know how.. but when i restared the comp, it couldnt see one of the drives...
 
i've seen too me people lose thier IDE raid arrays to a craptastic promise and highpoint controllers, and/or combined with abit junk mobos.


adul is right, a buttlefly can fart in mongolia and you'd hose your "schweet" raid 0 array..
 


<< sorry for your bad luck,
but those onboard-raid-controllers are simply not a feature, they just mean trouble and frustration (sooner or later).

and for all that work you put in an installation and the tweaking of your OS, why don't you create an image and store it on CD.
>>




image ehh.. how and with what?
 
got a plextor burner and or another third party software to span backups to cd? maybe ghost(just thought of that one) thier are many others...

after that all you need is a place to store it(ie cdr's or another drive)
 

yep, GHOST would be one option, but i'd prefer POWERQUEST DRIVE IMAGE 5.0

when you're finished with the installation and everything runs the way you want to have it, you start the tool (i do it from floppy) and create an absolute identical image/copy of the whole installation with all software and settings etc.. the software will create one file that will be stored on another partition where it's "waiting" for your burner.
and there's no need to worry about the size of the installation, first you can compress the file to 50% of the original size and then you'll be able to create splitted files that fit on a CD one by one...

same procedure can be used to backup valuable data as a whole.
 


<< with raid 0 you live on the edge 😉 >>

No kidding, two times the risk on a failure with a single HD. Makes your skin crawl just by thinking of it....

*shivers*
 
Dude, I played with RAID 0 ever since Promise came out with their Fast Track 66. After I lost my data due to one of my HDs going out on me TWICE, I've learned NEVER to use RAID 0 again. If you want to do RAID properly, you use RAID 5 with SCSI drives. RAID 0/1 is just a waste.
 
I've been using IDE RAID-0 for over a year now. I've never had a problem with it.

Yes, my data gets backed up, but it did before.

BTW, Ghost wont work with RAID-0. Yes, it will make an image, and yes, it will restore that image, but windows defrag and scandisk will not work after you do a restore.
 


<< with raid 0 you live on the edge >>



what is it called when you use raid 0 with a pair of 60GXPs?
Okay, okay, it's not my OS drive...I just use it for dumping captured video. No storage (not even temporary) on this set at all 😉
 
I've been lobbying for the longest to time get the term "RAID0" abolished. There is no redundancy and exponential increase in the chance of failure. Using AID (yes no, R) without backup is mindless.

Want read performance and security? Get hardware RAID5.

Windogg
 
Hate to say it, but no surprises here. Everyone warns about RAID 0 yet people continue to use it for their primary drive. I can see it for a scratch disk though of course.

I may go RAID 1 with my next setup, but in the meantime I've just bought a second external hard drive for backups. (It's too much of a pain to burn 20 GB of MP3 to CD.) I've been contemplating a DVD-R(W) for backups, but the drives and media are too expensive at the moment. (My work documents also get backed up to CD-R and zip.)
 
Having all of your files in RAID 0 says you don't care about your data. I don't feel sorry for people whose RAID 0 setups fail.
 
That's not true. Hard drives don't fail often so if you backup frequently you'll be ok if one dies. The performance boost is worth it but you have to accept the risk.
 
I've never had a HDD fail. This includes 4 75 GB and 3 45 GB IBM 75GXPs and 2 40GB IBM 60GXPs.

And as I said above, I've used RAID-0 for over a year now, with no problems. In fact, I've used RAID-0 in three machines with no problems. Two of those machines have had 75GXPs in RAID-0 in them.

There are four things I do that may set me apart from most people:

I NEVER move my machine while it's running.

I always have active cooling for my HDDs.

I don't leave my machine overclocked to the limit.

I don't use rounded cables or cables over 18".
 

i don't think the HDDs are to blame, it's the Controller-CHIP that tends to fail and write junk to the HDDs. 😕
 
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