Most stable/reliable boards for AMD.

wizdum

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I'm looking for a motherboard for an Athlon XP processor. What are some good boards that have a good reputation of reliability and stability and also have good support and a good RMA process. Any suggestions? And don't even say Abit, I've had the worst experience with those things, lol.


P.S., I was thinking more in the KT400 area.
 

fkloster

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Most stable/reliable boards for AMD.

Thats easy...AMD makes the most stable reliable boards for AMD.

P.S., I was thinking more in the KT400 area.

Stable and KT400 is an oxymoron...

Tyan makes the 760MPX dually board don't they....that board is granite stable
 

wizdum

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AMD doesn't make motherboards do they? If they do, I've never seen one! Anyway, does anyone else have a opinion that they would like to share?
 

KF

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A nice, 100% stable mobo for ordinary people is an EPOX 8K5A2 or 8K3A. Anyway, a lot of people here think so. KT400 mobos are kind of new to give a definate verdict.

Really good support for mobos by the manufacturer seems to be non-existant. Some are better than others. EPOX seems to be on the OK side.
 

AnAndAustin

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:eek: For mobos it tends to be the chipset which is more important than the manu, although if you have found a partic manu to be good there's no reason not to stick with them providing the price diffs aren't huge. So on to SktA mobo chipsets:

VIA: KT333 isn't hugely better than KT266A, basicly can run PC2700 async (3% perf boost) and has the PCI divider for 333FSB although it isn't guaranteed to run at 333FSB. KT400 is the newest and should be the most future proof. It unoff allows PC3200 and 400FSB while 333FSB is now certified and things like ATA133, USB2 and AGP8x are now built in as standard. IIRC KT400 overcomes the quirky VIA PCI bus which has often proved problematic with PCI RAID and SB Live soundcards. In a nutshell VIA tend to be the fastest (only slightly) and certainly VERY tweakable and o/c'able (nForce2 is also very good on both of these counts) but VIA although cheap and popular are known to be the quirkiest mobo chipsets going.

SiS: 735 and 745 are the most available and there's very little diff between them, IIRC 745 simply allows async PC2700 but it is slower than synced PC2100 so don't buy it for that! These are known to be very robust, compatible and stable chipsets but severely lacking in the tweaking and o/c'ing dept.

nVidia nForce: nForce (nForce1) come in a variety of flavours and are very similar to SiS (very comp and stable but lack tweaking) but with great o/b goodies. Types are 215, 220, 415, 420 and some have the 'D' added to the end which means they do Dolby 5.1 sound. The 4__ have Dual Channel RAM (reqs 2 sticks) but it's pointless unless you use the o/b gfx which are GF2MX200 and built in to the _20, very underpowered for even basic gaming. The things they have in common is great o/b sound and great o/b LAN, they do all tend to be quite pricey though. nForce2 are just out and upgrade a number of things most notably the GF4MX420 o/b gfx which is much better than GF2MX but still very underpowered, dual LAN, better Dual Channel RAM, ATA133, AGP8x, USB2, firewire and 333FSB support along with PC2700 and unoff PC3200 support. Along with VIA KT400 the nForce2 is by far the most future proof chipset although KT333 should be pretty fine too.

AMD: Haven't released anything new in ages and are very outdated now. IMHO the next AMD chipset will be for Hammer.

;) So if you want speed and tweakability go VIA, if you want good speed and want stability get SiS or if you want great o/b too nForce1. If you want the best long term solution VIA-KT400 or nForce2 are the clear winners. KT400 is meant to be fundamentily diff in many ways to the older VIA chipsets and a new PCI bus which may enable great stability, although if you want it all (speed, stability, features, tweakability, lastability etc) it seems nForce2 is def the way to go. As for manu, ask around, but generally just because brandA made a great KT266A mobo does NOT mean their new KT400, SiS745 etc is any good, so only support is likely to remain the same but even that isn't true for co's like MSI. I'd say choose chipset, then look at prices to make your decision.
 

MrPhelps

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I have a Epox 8kha+ runnning for 1 year no problems. Look at my rig for the rest of the story.:)
 

BFG10K

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I like to buy motherboards from Soltek or Gigabyte, whether or not I got with AMD or Intel.

If I was getting an AMD motherboard I'd probably get a VIA KT333 chipset and I hear that Soltek's SLDRV5 is getting rave reviews.
 

psteng19

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MSI K7T series (KT133A chipset).

Look at my system rigs.
Been running those bad boys for months without problems, and before them, I had another 2 K7T Pro2a mb's, so a total of 5 K7T's.

I know you say KT400, but just wanted to throw in my opinion... and I am running XP1600 and 1700's.

My next motherboard will no doubt be made by MSI :D
 

majewski9

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Any board with an AMD 760 chipset will give superior stability. KT333 and KT266A will also offer top notch stability. The KT133A from which I know from a lot of personal expierence has awesome stability. Even the ECS k7S5A that costs a mere 50 bucks can be rock stable once u work the bugs out! I personally think that the Nforce2 spp will be the most stable chipset ever released for AMD. I think the days of a VIA dominated AMD market are over. I say u get an NForce2 board which they will be out in the next 2 weeks.

My favorite board makers are Iwill, Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte. Personally I love Iwill but they dont release to many boards. :(
 

spanner

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Nforce boards all the way. I wouldn't even go near VIA if stability is a concern (though they have improved lately). As for AMD chipsets, they are stable but slower then the nforce
 

PliotronX

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I can't say enough good things about my 8K3A. It is as stable as any past Intel platforms I've used and very fast. Right now I've got it running an unlocked 1800+ at 10x175MHz and it passes 24 hours of Prime95. I'm also using it with the Audigy, which makes this an infamous combination of unstable hardware but it is rock solid here. I would recommend an EPoX or Asus board. I also helped build a system with a Duron 1Gig and an Iwill KA266+ and it's been rock solid as well, would recommend Iwill too.
 

BD231

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foofoo

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actually,
in my experience, for stability and reliability, an nforce based board would be preferrable. they are not the fastest, though the differences arent that big and that wasnt the question.
anandaustin gave a great summary.
try one of the the 420d boards, you wont be disappointed.
good luck
 

Sunner

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Im a bit shy of Epox boards.
I have an 8KHA+ myself, and it's running fine, but it's one out of three I bought, the other ones were for friends, and both of them broke down.

At first I thought this was merely a fluke, seeing as 3 boards is hardly enough to make any kind of reliable judgement of their quality, but after having a look at the RMA numbers for the place where I bought them, Im not so sure anymore.
The RMA percentage was listed as >5%, unfortunately they don't list higher than 5% any more specifically than that.
But that's compared to ~1% for Asus' A7V266-C and something like 2.5% for MSI's KT266A board.

Anyway, my next board will likely be nForce based, assuming it's a Socket A board.
 

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Been running my Epox 8khA+ since feb and it's been rock solid. I don't OC so I can't comment on it's stability in that realm. I have managed to get over 30 days of uptime (despite using 2k pro, having a SB live, and working off the version of windoze from the previous MB) It is only the 266A chipset, so that might be a concern. FWIW, I am running a 1900+ on it.

-Pete
 

RanDum72

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A mobo based on the AMD 761 or nvidia nforce chipset from a good brand such as Asus, Epox and Gigabyte would be my suggestion.
 

DigitalXtreme

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I would recommend the MSI KT3 Ultra mobo because I have been using it for a while without any probs ... and if U want KT400, I would recommend the MSI KT4 Ultra mobo because I have heard good reviews about that too ...
Other then that its ur personal preference what U want
Hope this helped

DX
 

AnAndAustin

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;) I would reiterate that simply because a partic manu made a great and stable KT266A (or whatever) doesn't mean that their KT333 or KT400 will be just as good let alone their SiS, nForce or AMD mobos. All manus seem to be very good, as I said IMHO it's more down to the chipset than the manu's implimentation of it.

:eek: Anyway a lot of people seem to suggest MSI as the way to go, which a year ago I would have heartily agreed with. Great mobos for a very good price although the number of revisions is a little high and the naming often a little muddled. However judging by quite a few consumers' opinions added to the number of retailers who've sworn by MSI in the past and now refuse to stock them I wouldn't touch them despite using a lot of their mobos in the past. I'd say for any manu you are trusting a bit to luck so I'd go more by price and features than a partic manu. If I was going for a SktA mobo right now I'd try to hold on to see how nForce2 turn out otherwise I'd go with SiS/nForce1 if stability was top priority and tweaking and o/c'ing were very low priorities ... otherwise it would have to be VIA KT333 for cost effectiveness (plus lots of reviews/user opinions) or the KT400 for its better long term potential and improved PCI etc.
 

microAmp

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I have very good experience with the KT22A chipset on the EPoX 8KHA+.

I now have the ASUS A7V333 with KT333 chipset, the only thing I don't like about it is the dozen or two jumpers on there, even though it's a jumperless motherboard using the BIOS, I just had to make sure all the jumpers were set correctly and they were. It's a stable motherboard for me.
 

Bovinicus

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I've got an EPoX 8KHA+ that has been running strong for around 2 years now. I love this board. The KT333 and KT400 boards from EPoX are probably also worthy of consumer purchases. EPoX spends a great deal of time try to make their boards the most overclockable, and therefore the most stable. If you need more features, Soyo's Dragon line of boards is a good option. The nForce2 is also good, but I don't know of any availability yet.