Most Socialist cities in America?

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dpopiz

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what do you think are the top most socialist cities in america?

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IronWing

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Pick any small town. The American rural/farm economy is heavily socialized.
 
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czech09

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I was going to say San Francisco as well...from personal experience Gainesville, FL...
 
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JACKHAMMER

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: ironwing
Pick any small town. The American rural/farm economy is heavily socialized.
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OMG, are you confusing socialism with subsidization?
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He must be. Either way, I can't believe the amount of money that goes out for farmers NOT to farm.
 
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nweaver

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Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: ironwing
Pick any small town. The American rural/farm economy is heavily socialized.
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OMG, are you confusing socialism with subsidization?
Click to expand...

He must be. Either way, I can't believe the amount of money that goes out for farmers NOT to farm.
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spoken like a true city slicker...


have you guys ever tried to farm...it's a poor existance, and one that only those who love to farm will do.
 
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JACKHAMMER

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Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: ironwing
Pick any small town. The American rural/farm economy is heavily socialized.
Click to expand...

OMG, are you confusing socialism with subsidization?
Click to expand...

He must be. Either way, I can't believe the amount of money that goes out for farmers NOT to farm.
Click to expand...

spoken like a true city slicker...


have you guys ever tried to farm...it's a poor existance, and one that only those who love to farm will do.
Click to expand...

I may be a city slicker, but we have close family friends who are farmers and they live anything but a poor "existance". Six figure machinery, a couple of houses, and more trucks than they know what to do with - most bought by tax payer money. Look, like it or not the government PAYS people to do nothing with their land, which by keeping less produce on the shelfs actually raises the prices of our food. And the only reason they do this is the ag. lobby - not b/c its good for the average american.
 
Triumph

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Originally posted by: Kilgor
Washington D.C. also the most corrupt.
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Yup, a socialist mecca! High taxes, plenty of money spent on schools that fail, erosion of fundamental rights, ghettos in half of the city, red light cameras, speeding cameras, etc. Looks like their socialist paradise is really setting a good example!
 
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nweaver

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Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: ironwing
Pick any small town. The American rural/farm economy is heavily socialized.
Click to expand...

OMG, are you confusing socialism with subsidization?
Click to expand...

He must be. Either way, I can't believe the amount of money that goes out for farmers NOT to farm.
Click to expand...

spoken like a true city slicker...


have you guys ever tried to farm...it's a poor existance, and one that only those who love to farm will do.
Click to expand...

I may be a city slicker, but we have close family friends who are farmers and they live anything but a poor "existance". Six figure machinery, a couple of houses, and more trucks than they know what to do with - most bought by tax payer money. Look, like it or not the government PAYS people to do nothing with their land, which by keeping less produce on the shelfs actually raises the prices of our food. And the only reason they do this is the ag. lobby - not b/c its good for the average american.
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My wife's family farms. Yes, they have a decent home, some trucks, and lots of 6 figure machinery, but they also have debt...plenty of it. The government does not just give farmers money, they pay for CRP, which means you leave that specific piece of land fallow/let natural vegitation grow back for a few years. This is because a farmer needs all his land to be producing to make money, but if they farm it all every year, it's yield falls and the quality of crop falls. CRP is a pretty decent deal, but my in laws make more from their organic wheat then CRP. Sprayed/normal wheat is about a wash, depending on when/who they sell to.

My father in law works hard, and makes about 35-45K a year, including CRP. That's far from rich and thriving.
 
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91TTZ

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The most socialist cities will be the cities with the highest black population, since they depend on social services more than anyone else.

I know people are thinking of places that are vocally politically liberal such as San Fran, Seattle, etc. But I'd bet you'll find that dumpy cities such as Detroit, Washington DC, Gary, Oakland, etc will have the the most socialist systems.
 
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Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER

I may be a city slicker, but we have close family friends who are farmers and they live anything but a poor "existance". Six figure machinery, a couple of houses, and more trucks than they know what to do with - most bought by tax payer money. Look, like it or not the government PAYS people to do nothing with their land, which by keeping less produce on the shelfs actually raises the prices of our food. And the only reason they do this is the ag. lobby - not b/c its good for the average american.
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Listing "6 figure machinery" when talking about excess is an obvious sign of ignorance.

Unlike your PC the real world sometimes requires more than just a screwdriver.

Viper GTS
 
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