Jaskalas
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- Jun 23, 2004
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Trump is Alive, Lincoln is Dead. Death is weakness. Sad.
Well that won't last....
Trump is Alive, Lincoln is Dead. Death is weakness. Sad.
Are we talking about republicans or the democrats debates?
As for voters. Well Trump was a punch in the nose. I think a lot of people that voted for Trump felt disenfranchised. Every other politician wants to make promises to help minorities and gays and kind of leave the lower white middle class behind. I think a lot of Trump voters felt like they were being told by liberals that their belief system doesn't count and they didn't count. Maybe they weren't smart enough to understand. So they bloodied the liberals noses.
Unless democrats can impeach Trump AND remove him from office the poor stupid forgotten lower middle class is going to deliver a knock out blow and we get 4 more years of Trump.
Are we talking about republicans or the democrats debates?
As for voters. Well Trump was a punch in the nose. I think a lot of people that voted for Trump felt disenfranchised. Every other politician wants to make promises to help minorities and gays and kind of leave the lower white middle class behind. I think a lot of Trump voters felt like they were being told by liberals that their belief system doesn't count and they didn't count. Maybe they weren't smart enough to understand. So they bloodied the liberals noses.
Unless democrats can impeach Trump AND remove him from office the poor stupid forgotten lower middle class is going to deliver a knock out blow and we get 4 more years of Trump.
Obviously, Lincoln freed the slaves which most Republicans consider to be the biggest mistake the country ever made. The idea that we should treat other races as equal is like the worst thing ever to a solid majority of the current Republican party. That Trump continuously attacks different ethnic and nationality groups makes him the perfect President to those people.
Or Fox News back in the civil rights era...I would love to see Fox News or Rush Limbaugh or a Sean Hannity back in that Lincoln era. Does anyone really believe that Fox or Limbaugh or Hannity would be standing up for the slaves or for their freedom?
NO..... THEY WOULD NOT. DEFINITELY NOT. NEVER.
We all know that. And so do they.
They would be calling Abe Lincoln a traitor and anti American and their only concern would be with the loss of THE MONEY and loss of THE WEALTH and the loss of THE PROPERTY of those plantation owners.
For them, slaves were like owning cattle or owning a Mercedes Benz. If Abe Lincoln was to free those slaves then for Fox News and Limbaugh and Hannity it would be like taking away personal property and personal wealth from plantation owners.
At the least they'd have called Lincoln a socialist. At the best, a traitor.
AMAZING... after all these years since Abe Lincoln, the hate is as fresh as it was back then.
For bigots and racist like Fox and Limbaugh and Hannity, time changes nothing.
Not only that, he was sick as a dog when he wrote it and when he delivered it-apparently of a variation of smallpox, an often deadly disease.Lincoln wrote the Gettysburg address, on the back of an envelope while on a train. Trump is incapable of writing a coherent paragraph, largely because he is largely uneducated, functionally illiterate and ultimately incoherent. Sanity is not prevalent, let's be honest. And "truth is out of style." I expect nothing more from registered Republicans.
The Party of Lincoln now believes that the proposition that all persons are created equal is socialism, and their white identity is more important than the ideals this country was founded upon.See this is the bull shit lie that keeps getting repeated. Treating every member of society with respect does not mean others are being left behind.
Wonder what the British think of Trump??
View from the chopper as Trump makes his way across Central London. Well played, @metpoliceuk Special Escort Group.
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-This is it, exactly. Feelings. People **feel** disenfranchised, even if they're doing better than 99% of humanity that has ever existed,
cause they're not shitting in gold toilets like the mega wealthy are.
At the end of the day, this is about white high school educated blue collar workers needing to feel special, needing to feel talked about, needing to feel like their problems matter to someone. I don't know if they feel like this is a zero sum game, where talking about minorities is breath that could have been used to talk about them, but ultimately they're upset that their issues aren't in the spotlight.
And thanks to the electoral college, these folks have an outsized influence on our electoral process.
I don't agree with it, but as they say you go to war with the army you got, not the one you wish you had.
Rachel had a good spot yesterday on the Repussians brain defect, Duncan Hunter, Chris Collins ... major scumbags .. still reelected like that *snaps finger*.
First Trump endorsements in Congress indicted, plead guilty
Rachel Maddow reports on the fates of Rep. Duncan Hunter and Rep. Chris Collins who were the first two members of Congress to endorse Donald Trump for president and have since, in unrelated cases, been federally indicted and admitted criminal guilt.www.msnbc.com
These poor people are being held hostage by conservative media ... brainwashed... its a sect.
The rest not so much. The stated and most apparent measures of why someone might feel disenfranchised are not holding up, I agree. But instead of invalidating the feeling, I believe it just means the source of it has been misidentified.
I asked my cousin's precoscious 12 year old son that very question when I visited with the British pair at Martha's Vineyard in MA the summer before the 2016 election. He and I had fun cruising the Internet for Trumpian material, laughing our asses off. His answer to the question was one word: "Disgraceful."Wonder what the British think of Trump??
When they do, they stop being Republicans. It's not in the genes, it's in the mind.I never knew that most Republicans could think,,,,,,
Not surprising given that Lincoln was a liberal.
-I personally think problems are class based, but the dialogue around these problems isn't class based, it's race based, and that's what whites find alienating.
Poor white people and poor black people etc have the same problems, certainly problems that are much more similar than a poor white person and a rich white person etc.
Problem is when a Pol talks about police brutality, or civil rights, or economic enfranchisement, they mistakenly do it through the lense of minority identity politics instead of making it about class identity, and in the process make poorer/ less educated white voters feel like no one is addressing their issues, when really they will benefit from the same "minority" policies being stated.
This leaves a gap for politicians like DT to come in and play white identity politics and scoop up these voters in droves.
Personally think the best play for Dems is to go with Bernie or Warren, people who are strongest when talking about class based issues with a broad appeal rather than trying to beat the race issues to death.
Wonder what the British think of Trump??
View from the chopper as Trump makes his way across Central London. Well played, @metpoliceuk Special Escort Group.
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Please. Trump voters were actually the more affluent. Mere fact. The GOP has been the party of white culture warrior fear & xenophobia for at least 25 years. It's not like the medicaid expansion, food programs & the rest of it aren't the same in White Appalachia as in Baltimore.
I actually heard one of the c-span callers say this today and I wanted to die. "All Lincoln did was free the slaves" and Trump "has done more for us than any other president".