Most Rape Victims in the Military are Men

[desura]

http://www.examiner.com/article/most-rape-victims-the-u-s-military-are-men

Male sexual trauma victims have described officers or older enlisted men gang raping recruits, soldiers "sodomizing victims with gunbarrels and forcing young enlistees to perform oral sex", according to the article.

Paul Branesky, a retired Navy diver from St. Petersburg, said he was gang raped by four sailors who took turns sodomizing him in the summer of 1967 at submarine training school in Groton, Conn.

Greg Helle, a veterinary hospital administrator from Ankeny, Iowa, says he was "raped during his tour in Vietnam by fellow soldiers."

Okay, here's what I don't get.

You know who they are. You know where the weapons are. If that ever happened to me, I would hunt down and murder the rapists. So how does this happen?

 

[SheHateMe]

I'm sure you wouldn't be singing the same tune if you actually got gang raped.

 

[ElFenix]

rum, sodomy, and the lash?

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Um, while rape of any sort is a serious problem and not acceptable, statistics based on absolute numbers that don't take into account the reference population are deliberately deceptive. By the author's own admission, military women are 3.5x as likely to be rape victims as men.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Male sexual trauma victims have described officers or older enlisted men gang raping recruits, soldiers "sodomizing victims with gunbarrels and forcing young enlistees to perform oral sex", according to the article.

Is the reason we got so outraged when the Taliban did this, is that they did it on the civies?
When the American military does it they at least keep it between themselves? (well..at least most of it)

 

[desura]

Um, while rape of any sort is a serious problem and not acceptable, statistics based on absolute numbers that don't take into account the reference population are deliberately deceptive. By the author's own admission, military women are 3.5x as likely to be rape victims as men.

That's....not the point.

The point is that male rape is quite prevalent in the military. Now, I have less a problem with hazing rituals where they like fondle genitalia and just male jockeying...but there are some stories of serious rape.

better article,
http://www.refusingtokill.net/rape/malerapinthearmy.htm

 

[postmortemIA]

Um, while rape of any sort is a serious problem and not acceptable, statistics based on absolute numbers that don't take into account the reference population are deliberately deceptive. By the author's own admission, military women are 3.5x as likely to be rape victims as men.

Yep, if 4 out of 1,000 men is raped in army, and 3 out of 3 women are raped, then per this statistics, men are more often raped.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

You know who they are. You know where the weapons are. If that ever happened to me, I would hunt down and murder the rapists. So how does this happen?

You obviously have been watching way too many Hollywood movies and never served.

Ammunition is tightly controlled, very tightly controlled. You don't have your gun with you 24/7 - its stored in a tightly secured armory and only issued on range days or other training activities.

I saw no rapes nor heard of anything in my 3yrs on active duty in an all male MOS. I think we had 3 females in our entire Company. Supply & Comms.

 

[MrColin]

rum, sodomy, and the lash?

That's what you join the navy for in the first place.

 

[nextJin]

I've been in for about 14 years and not once have I heard of any rumors or actual investigations on male on male rape. Even while serving 5 years at a joint unit with airmen, sailors and marine during our semi annual training male on male rape has never been brought up.

Now conventional rape is another story, I've seen females get beaten so bad they had to be hospitalized for a week after a gang rape, multiple rumors, investigations, and UCMJ action.

 

[SheHateMe]

I've been in for about 14 years and not once have I heard of any rumors or actual investigations on male on male rape. Even while serving 5 years at a joint unit with airmen, sailors and marine during our semi annual training male on male rape has never been brought up.

Now conventional rape is another story, I've seen females get beaten so bad they had to be hospitalized for a week after a gang rape, multiple rumors, investigations, and UCMJ action.

I'd imagine that men would be less likely to report being raped by another man while serving in the military.

Perhaps, there is more of a stigma behind something like that.

 

[Orignal Earl]

snip

You see what you have here folks?
A military member who has real honor

 

[michal1980]

aren't most members of the military men?

 

[Orignal Earl]

aren't most members of the military men?

Did you start hitting the pisasauce early today?

 

[desura]

You obviously have been watching way too many Hollywood movies and never served.

Ammunition is tightly controlled, very tightly controlled. You don't have your gun with you 24/7 - its stored in a tightly secured armory and only issued on range days or other training activities.

I saw no rapes nor heard of anything in my 3yrs on active duty in an all male MOS. I think we had 3 females in our entire Company. Supply & Comms.

I'm aware that they don't like sleep with their rifles.

However...just saying. This isn't prison. You know where weapons are kept and could probably find a way to sneak one with enough determination. You are in close proximity with the offender and know where they go on a daily basis.

 

[SheHateMe]

^^ Who is this guy?

 

[schneiderguy]

^^ Who is this guy?

Who r u

R u rly a girl

 

[sourn]

I'm aware that they don't like sleep with their rifles.

However...just saying. This isn't prison. You know where weapons are kept and could probably find a way to sneak one with enough determination. You are in close proximity with the offender and know where they go on a daily basis.

LOL! Ya, probably not.

Do you realize what an armory is? At home most won't even have rounds (well maybe a few incase the alarm goes on the fritz and you have to post guards).

These locks are not something you can cut easily with a hacksaw/bolt cutters. These are thousand dollar locks made to withstand quite a bit. And key control is a huge thing. I had to go through 3 places to get my armory keys. Battalion-company-ncoic (ops).

Now if it's over seas then you could more easily take care of something like you talk about.

 

[Scooby Doo]

The male body has ways of shutting this down

Sorry had to be said

 

[Agent11]

All you people talking about shooting your rapist if you were in the military are idiots. You would never get justice then, you would just be ruining your life further.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Ammunition is tightly controlled, very tightly controlled. You don't have your gun with you 24/7 -- umm correction -- he probably does have his gun with him....he did have to turn in his weapon!! - its stored in a tightly secured armory and only issued on range days or other training activities.

har har har

 

[JEDIYoda]

The male body has ways of shutting this down

yeah just cross your legs....

 

[JEDIYoda]

However...just saying. This isn't prison. You know where weapons are kept and could probably find a way to sneak one with enough determination. You are in close proximity with the offender and know where they go on a daily basis.

you have no clue.......never served....eh?

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

I'm aware that they don't like sleep with their rifles.

However...just saying. This isn't prison. You know where weapons are kept and could probably find a way to sneak one with enough determination. You are in close proximity with the offender and know where they go on a daily basis.

It'd be far easier and zero risk to just go out and buy a gun... Where as getting one through the armory when you're not supposed to have one would be incredibly difficult if not impossible. Definitely not worth the risk of getting caught for no reason. They don't just leave them on a rack for you to take.

I get the feeling this is a navy thing? In the Air Force, you hear of male rapes happening more as whispers that it happens in theory. Not that it doesn't happen; it's just not an epidemic.

 

[desura]

Look, the thing about the thread is more the surprise that any male rape happens, at all in the military. Horrible as it sounds, I get female rape, but male rape is...worse.