Most Overclockable GeForce FX?

[Jeff7181]

Just thinking about what the next "Ti4200 replacement" will be... Ti4200's have served me well for over a year, maybe I'll have to wait for the NV40 to come out before nVidia makes another chipset comparable to the Ti4200?

 

[BoomAM]

Bit of a misleading thread title.
IMO, the next Ti4200 has already been and gone, but its not a nVidia card. Its the ATI 9500np. With the pipeline and memory bus hack.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Bit of a misleading thread title.
IMO, the next Ti4200 has already been and gone, but its not a nVidia card. Its the ATI 9500np. With the pipeline and memory bus hack.

that seems too much of a hit and miss to me, most likely gonna be a miss. from what i have read, the MSI card can do 500/1000

 

[Dack76]

I get 500/960 with my Gainward 5900 FX Ultra...with auto detect... haven't tried to 500/1000 yet.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Dack76
I get 500/960 with my Gainward 5900 FX Ultra...with auto detect... haven't tried to 500/1000 yet.

That's hardly a Ti4200 though... I bought my first Ti4200 over a year ago for $180... played all games with ease until recently when I upgraded to a more overclockable Ti4200 that runs at Ti4600 speeds.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Bit of a misleading thread title.
IMO, the next Ti4200 has already been and gone, but its not a nVidia card. Its the ATI 9500np. With the pipeline and memory bus hack.

How is it misleading?

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
How is it misleading?

The thread title was
"Most Overclockable GeForceFX",
but your inital post was
"Just thinking about what the next "Ti4200 replacement" will be... Ti4200's have served me well for over a year, maybe I'll have to wait for the NV40 to come out before nVidia makes another chipset comparable to the Ti4200?"

They sorta contradict each other. You ask about OCing GF FX cards, leading us to think thats all you want to know, but then instead of elaborating further, you ask something completly different.
Its no biggy. Dont worry about it.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: BoomAM

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
How is it misleading?

The thread title was
"Most Overclockable GeForceFX",
but your inital post was
"Just thinking about what the next "Ti4200 replacement" will be... Ti4200's have served me well for over a year, maybe I'll have to wait for the NV40 to come out before nVidia makes another chipset comparable to the Ti4200?"

They sorta contradict each other. You ask about OCing GF FX cards, leading us to think thats all you want to know, but then instead of elaborating further, you ask something completly different.
Its no biggy. Dont worry about it.

I didn't think it was necessary to explain it further... but since it must be...

The Ti4200 was, and still is adequate for pretty much every game... although more powerful versions are available, it's almost stupid to go with anything other than a Ti4200 if you're considering a GF4. And some companies like Asus have produced highly overclockable cards like the V8420S. So... my question is... which model in the GeForceFX line of cards is going to be the next Ti4200? (Fairly cheap, runs every game at a decent speed, and is overclockable enough to get close to or even match the high end models)

 

[BoomAM]

Unfortunatelly. nVidia seem to be taking the ATI route. The "Budget" cards are badly cut down versions of the top cards, which no amount of OCing will make up for. Leaving people who want to OC to the top card, but not pay for the top card, will have to buy the card thats directly below the top card, and then OC that.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Unfortunatelly. nVidia seem to be taking the ATI route. The "Budget" cards are badly cut down versions of the top cards, which no amount of OCing will make up for. Leaving people who want to OC to the top card, but not pay for the top card, will have to buy the card thats directly below the top card, and then OC that.

Hopefully that will change with the NV40... they're hyping the launch a lot more than the GeForce FX origionally was it seems. Or maybe I'm just more interested in it now and see more about it cause I'm paying attention.

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Or maybe I'm just more interested in it now and see more about it cause I'm paying attention.

Probably cos your interested now. I havnt heard much about the nV40 to be honest.
If you want a decent, fast card now, then the 9700pro is the best price/performance card out at the moment.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: BoomAM

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Or maybe I'm just more interested in it now and see more about it cause I'm paying attention.

Probably cos your interested now. I havnt heard much about the nV40 to be honest.
If you want a decent, fast card now, then the 9700pro is the best price/performance card out at the moment.

I want to disagree with that...

because $250-300 is by no means cheap... unless you compare it to a 9800 Pro or FX5900... but I still think the best price/performance deals right now are the Ti4200 (Asus V8420S specifically) or from ATI, either the 9600 Pro or 9500 Pro. All of those are under $200... the Ti4200 being under $150

... but I guess that's a reasonable statement since it's pretty much middle of the road as far as prices go. And nobody would deny that the 9700 Pro is a top performer.

 

[BoomAM]

What i ment was, for the price, you are getting a video card that is very very capible. There hasnt been a card at that price before that gives that amount of performance compared to the competition.

 

[stardust]

on topic:

leadtek and that one taiwan company (and im sure there are others) are selling the 5600 256mb with low 2.2ns memory which could be capable of 945mhz.
its the same ram used in the 5900 but without the 256bit. i mean EXACTLY the same. (hynix 22)

so that may be ur next choice?? i do recommend the PNY geforcefx5600U rev2 tho...every game except splintercell performed better on the 5600U than my Ti4400.

 

[Jeff7181]

That MIGHT be a good one... but I guess we'll have to wait and see what these new DX9 games do to current DX9 video cards. Back when the GeForce4's were new, the Ti4200 could run any game... the Ti4400 and Ti4600 could just run them with more detail. That's what I'm looking for in a new card... a "value" card that can do everything the top of the line can do, just a little bit slower or with less detail in the game.

 

[titanmiller]

The 5900 value is probably what will "be the next 4200" as far as getting more than you pay for.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Unfortunatelly. nVidia seem to be taking the ATI route. The "Budget" cards are badly cut down versions of the top cards, which no amount of OCing will make up for. Leaving people who want to OC to the top card, but not pay for the top card, will have to buy the card thats directly below the top card, and then OC that.

this is very true and i dont see it changing with nv40. this is a better game plan for ati and nvidia. i know sooooo many people who just bought ti4200 and OCed them to ti4600. and everytime that happens, it means that nvidia is losing a GRIP of money. imagine if a 5600 ultra was able to oc into a 5900 ultra. nvidia would lose sooo much money

 

[Pete]

Remember, the 4200 was basically a second-generation GF3. You may have to see what either ATi or nVidia have up their sleeves with their next-gen DX9 cards (NV40/R420 and corresponding value parts).