Most Consumers Unaware of Online Pricing Tactics

Amused

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Anyone seen this? I've never noticed seeing a higher price than someone else.

Most Consumers Unaware of Online Pricing Tactics
Same Item, but Different Prices to Different Shoppers
By TED BRIDIS, AP

WASHINGTON (June 1) - Most American consumers don't realize Internet merchants and even traditional retailers sometimes charge different prices to different customers for the same products, according to a new survey.

The study, "Open to Exploitation," found nearly two-thirds of adult Internet users believed incorrectly it was illegal to charge different people different prices, a practice retailers call "price customization." More than two-thirds of people surveyed also said they believed online travel sites are required by law to offer the lowest airline prices possible.

The study, expected to be released Wednesday by the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, is the latest to cast doubt on the notion of sophisticated consumers in the digital age.

It said 87 percent of people strongly objected to the practice of online stores charging people different prices for the same products based on information collected about their shopping habits.

"I don't think people understand this is being done," said Willi Stabenau, 23, a musician in New York who participated in the survey. "We don't let ourselves be tracked that way in any other facet of our lives. Why would you want that to happen while you're shopping?"

The Internet empowers careful shoppers to conveniently compare prices and features across thousands of stores. But it also enables businesses to quietly collect detailed records about a customer's behavior and preferences and set prices accordingly. Changing prices is generally lawful unless doing so discriminates against a consumer's race or gender or violates antitrust or price-fixing laws.

Stabenau said he shops online frequently but always remembers: "They're after your money, and you want to spend as little as possible."

"People are fooling themselves if they believe otherwise," Stabenau said.

Stores aggressively try to retain loyal customers who generate the highest sales while discouraging bargain-hunter shoppers who are less profitable because they check many sites for the same product at the lowest price. They are known within the industry as "bottom feeders" who don't show any brand or merchant loyalty.

First-time buyers at a retailer could see higher prices than a firm's repeat customers, and retailers may not offer discounts to consumers who buy the same brands regularly without even looking at alternative products on the same site.

"It's really murky because companies are so loathe to discuss this," said researcher Joseph Turow. "This is a new model of shopping reality. The question becomes, what do people feel is right? Can't more openness be the order of the day?"

The study urged government to require retailers to disclose exactly what information is collected about customers and how the data is used, and it urged schools to teach students better how to protect themselves as consumers.

Turow found a retail photography Web site charging different prices for the same digital cameras and related equipment depending on whether shoppers had previously visited popular price-comparison sites. He said grocery stores increasingly offer personalized discounts and coupons based on a person's shopping behavior.

Amazon.com outraged some customers in September 2000 after one buyer deleted the electronic tags on his computer that identified him as a regular customer and noticed the price of a DVD changed from $26.24 to $22.74. The company said it was the result of a random price test and offered to refund buyers who paid the higher prices.

The Annenberg study was based on results from a telephone survey from Feb. 8 to March 14 of 1,500 adults who said they had used the Internet within the past 30 days. The margin of sampling error was reported to be plus or minus 2.51 percentage points.
 

franksta

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More than two-thirds of people surveyed also said they believed online travel sites are required by law to offer the lowest airline prices possible.

WTF? :confused:

Are people really that stupid?
 

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Happens all the time with online flower delivery sites. If you go through a site that offers a discount coupon, the "regular" price somehow jumps up.
 

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More than two-thirds of people surveyed also said they believed online travel sites are required by law to offer the lowest airline prices possible.
Ahaha hahaha, morons.

Anyway, other than that test by amazon, I've not heard verifiably of any other merchant doing this.
 

dullard

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So what is your opinion of this Amused? I assume you are 100% for it.

This part covers so many businesses (online and B&M):

"First-time buyers at a retailer could see higher prices than a firm's repeat customers, and retailers may not offer discounts to consumers who buy the same brands regularly without even looking at alternative products on the same site."

It is very common for businesses to send coupons or coupon codes to previous customers. Thus the repeat customers very frequently get lower prices than new customers. Heck, the most blatant evidence of this probably comes from bars. At virtually every bar I've ever heard of the new customers pay full price for a drink. Repeat customers pay cost or below cost for the drinks and then give enormous tips to the bartenders for charging them less. But it goes far beyond that as well. 10 punch tickets where the 10th is free gives lower average prices to repeat customers. Dell emailing better coupons to previous customers. Grocery stores printing coupons on receipts and the coupon depends on shopping habits stored on their use of a "discount" shopping card. Examples go on and on.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: dullard
So what is your opinion of this Amused? I assume you are 100% for it.

This part covers so many businesses (online and B&M):

"First-time buyers at a retailer could see higher prices than a firm's repeat customers, and retailers may not offer discounts to consumers who buy the same brands regularly without even looking at alternative products on the same site."

It is very common for businesses to send coupons or coupon codes to previous customers. Thus the repeat customers very frequently get lower prices than new customers. Heck, the most blatant evidence of this probably comes from bars. At virtually every bar I've ever heard of the new customers pay full price for a drink. Repeat customers pay cost or below cost for the drinks and then give enormous tips to the bartenders for charging them less. But it goes far beyond that as well. 10 punch tickets where the 10th is free gives lower average prices to repeat customers. Dell emailing better coupons to previous customers. Grocery stores printing coupons on receipts and the coupon depends on shopping habits stored on their use of a "discount" shopping card. Examples go on and on.

Businesses can do whatever they want. I was curious because I had never seen what was described in the article.

And for every return customer discount you show, I'll show new customer discounts that existing customers can't have. Especially with service oriented businesses.

Latest example I noted: New cable internet customers get 3 months free.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Amused
And for every return customer discount you show, I'll show new customer discounts that existing customers can't have. Especially with service oriented businesses.
Which is why the whole article is kindof pointless. You can get good prices by:
(1) staying loyal and getting loyal customer discounts (Time Warner just cut my cable bill by 30% for the last 3 months for simply not switching), or
(2) jumping back and forth getting the new customer discount all of the time.

The only people left out are those who never pay attention to prices and thus pay full price at all times.


 

Amused

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Amused
And for every return customer discount you show, I'll show new customer discounts that existing customers can't have. Especially with service oriented businesses.
Which is why the whole article is kindof pointless. You can get good prices by:
(1) staying loyal and getting loyal customer discounts (Time Warner just cut my cable bill by 30% for the last 3 months for simply not switching), or
(2) jumping back and forth getting the new customer discount all of the time.

The only people left out are those who never pay attention to prices and thus pay full price at all times.

Another reason over regulation is dangerous. It attempts to replace consumer responsibility. Doing so makes people complacent.

"Buyer beware" has been replaced by "there oughta be a law."
 

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Sounds like another reason to avoid spyware :)
And a reason not to follow links to shopping sites, but rather, cut and pasting the link into a new browser window.
 

PingSpike

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I like our current system...the one where stupid lazy people effectively subsidize the greats deals bargain hunters get.