Moroccan girl, 16, kills herself after being forced to marry rapist

brainhulk

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http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_20179...-herself-after-being-forced?source=rss_viewed

The case of a 16-year-old girl who killed herself after she was forced to marry her rapist has spurred outrage among Morocco's internet activists and calls for changes to the country's laws

Article 475 of the Moroccan penal code allows for the "kidnapper" of a minor to marry his victim to escape prosecution, and it has been used to justify a traditional practice of making a rapist marry his victim to preserve the honor of the woman's family.

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chimaxi83

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Wow, gotta love ass backwards loopholes. Sounds like she might've been pressured into it by her family, since they had to agree to the marriage.
 

LagunaX

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There is honor and there is sanity.
They don't necessarily intersect in parts of the world that I'll never venture.
 

BladeVenom

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You mean after 5 months of beatings.
Filali said Amina complained to her mother that her husband was beating her repeatedly during the five months of marriage but that her mother counseled patience.
 

dougp

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You mean after 5 months of beatings.

Why does it matter if it was right after the forced wedding or after 5 months of beatings? Shouldn't have happened to begin with. Of course, if she was in Iran or another radical Islamic country, she'd have been killed for having sex outside of marriage.
 

Kadarin

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Islamic culture is not compatible with Western core values. In fact, Islamic culture is worthless shit in my opinion.
 

Blitzvogel

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For honor!

I laughed :biggrin:

Seriously though, Islam or Arabic in origin, this kind of practice is pretty unjustifiable when the girl is not at fault in anyway. I'm sure their explanation is to say that "she's a woman, therefore it's her fault always! Original sin! EVE! BLARGHSFSHFSDFHFF!!!"

Honor my ass. She lost dignity, at no fault of her own I bet. You want honor, have the rapist gain HIS honor back by killing himself, only to have his remains spat on, hung by the ankles.
 

zoiks

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Islamic culture is not compatible with Western core values. In fact, Islamic culture is worthless shit in my opinion.

You know. Your post is very ignorant. This has absolutely nothing to do with Islam but central cultures in certain regions.
 

Ronstang

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You know. Your post is very ignorant. This has absolutely nothing to do with Islam but central cultures in certain regions.

It has everything to do with Islam. You cannot separate the culture from the religion. You can spin it any way you want. I have had many friends from the Middle East over the years, all Christians that came here to escape the Islamic religion and culture. Every one of those friends has nothing but bad things to say about Muslims. My best friend in the world is a non practicing Muslim. He holds the same sentiment towards Islam.
 

BladeVenom

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So it's the beatings where you draw the line, not at being forced to marry the person who raped you?

The title suggests that the marriage is the reason for the suicide. It seems to me that 5 months of beatings may have been the cause. Notice they don't mention the beatings till the end of the article. Other articles don't mention them at all. Is truth in journalism important to you?

The title could seem like it's negative propaganda against a cultural practice that no longer occurs in the west.

Domestic violence happens in our culture, so a title like "Wife commits suicide after 5 months of domestic violence," could just as easily have happened here. That title wouldn't stir up anti-Muslim rage like the title that was chosen.
 

Kadarin

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You know. Your post is very ignorant. This has absolutely nothing to do with Islam but central cultures in certain regions.

No, my post is not ignorant; your reading into it was.

There may or may not be anything in the Quran about this kind of situation, but that's not the point. The point is how Islamic culture actually treats women in a highly misogynistic way. Examples:

This Moroccan girl forced to marry her rapist.

Saudi Arabian girls forced by Saudi religious police to die in a fire because they weren't dressed appropriately to be seen in public: http://articles.latimes.com/2002/mar/25/opinion/oe-ghitis25

Noor al-Maleki killed by her father: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2055445,00.html

Iraqi teenage girl falls in love with a British soldier, and is killed for it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/27/iraq.military

A quote from the above article:

The father was arrested, held for two hours, then released without charge. 'Not much can be done when we have an "honour killing",' said Sgt Ali Jabbar of Basra police. 'You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws.'


Islam is the justification used for these actions. Therefore, I place Islamic culture squarely at fault. When you read story after story like this, the only valid conclusion is that Islamic culture is fucked up.
 

AMCRambler

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I think it can be summed up like this:

In the middle east the man is always right. In the west the woman is always right.
 

Mr. Pedantic

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The title suggests that the marriage is the reason for the suicide. It seems to me that 5 months of beatings may have been the cause. Notice they don't mention the beatings till the end of the article. Other articles don't mention them at all. Is truth in journalism important to you?

The title could seem like it's negative propaganda against a cultural practice that no longer occurs in the west.

Domestic violence happens in our culture, so a title like "Wife commits suicide after 5 months of domestic violence," could just as easily have happened here. That title wouldn't stir up anti-Muslim rage like the title that was chosen.
This isn't exactly the most inaccurate headline I've ever read. In fact, it's technically completely accurate; the girl was Moroccan, she was 16 at time of death, and her killing herself obviously happened after she was forced to marry her rapist.

Of course, your suggested headline is also completely accurate. But it doesn't provide the shock factor. Domestic violence happens where I live too. So what?

Also, unless you can prove that this law was entirely or largely secular in origin, nature, or intended purpose, then I would say the anti-Muslim rage is probably justified. Of course, if you can do that, then it just becomes anti-Arab rage. Really, it's the Moroccans' fault no matter the direction of the rage, for making such a bloody stupid law, and then for not repealing it the first chance they got.
 
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