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All I can say is that there are a number of people here who I am damn glad weren't around when I was growing up in the 50's and 60's.

If they had been I suspect that half of my generation would have ended up in jail.
 

WelshBloke

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All I can say is that there are a number of people here who I am damn glad weren't around when I was growing up in the 50's and 60's.

If they had been I suspect that half of my generation would have ended up in jail.
It's a completely different outlook.

I remember getting into a debate with some people here who thought it was totally acceptable to ban children from using a knife and fork to eat their lunch in case they spazzed out and tried to kill everyone with a butter knife!
 
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It's a completely different outlook.

I remember getting into a debate with some people here who thought it was totally acceptable to ban children from using a knife and fork to eat their lunch in case they spazzed out and tried to kill everyone with a butter knife!

Seriously?
 

WelshBloke

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Seriously?
Yeah. It was a similar thread to this but about some dad that had packed a butter knife in his kids packed lunch.

Apparently this was akin to sending her in with a crossbow.

I mentioned that schools around here all let kids use a knife and fork to eat and it got a "no way!" type response that I really wasn't expecting.
 

master_shake_

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Yeah. It was a similar thread to this but about some dad that had packed a butter knife in his kids packed lunch.

Apparently this was akin to sending her in with a crossbow.

I mentioned that schools around here all let kids use a knife and fork to eat and it got a "no way!" type response that I really wasn't expecting.

you know what they say?

butter knives are the crossbows of tomorrow.

unfortunately "they" are fucking crazy
 

John Connor

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When I was in Job Corp they got rid of metal silverware and had us all use plastic shit. Fucking place was a joke, but at least I got my GED and then high school diploma. I feel like I earned that GED more than the shity high school diploma though.
 

OverVolt

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More zero tolerance? I don't think this qualifies as more, as we already discussed this person and issue over a year ago:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2317642

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As smackbaby put it, mixing things together without knowing what might happen is pretty stupid. It's not how you would safely perform an experiment. If you were going to mix two things together, you might want to do a little research first to see if there are any big warnings. Second, you would probably want to do it on a small scale first under non-isochoric conditions (don't do it in a fixed volume, sealed container - any pressure build up can result in an explosion). Expulsion might have been extreme, but she definitely should have been reprimanded in some fashion.

Its baking soda and vinegar in 8th grade bro.
 
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Its baking soda and vinegar in 8th grade bro. If she could make an isochoric container while attending that shithole of a school Harvard should give her a full ride.
Where are you getting 8th grade and baking soda+vinegar from? She was a high school junior who took a cleaning product and mixed it with aluminum foil. Just googling those two things together would point out what would happen. And a sealed water bottle would be isochoric, for the most part, up until some part of the bottle fails due to the pressure inside. Fortunately, no one was hurt, but I've seen these things explode when I was high school, we were bored, and were just blowing up bottles of aluminum foil and drano in a park.
 

OverVolt

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Where are you getting 8th grade and baking soda+vinegar from? She was a high school junior who took a cleaning product and mixed it with aluminum foil. Just googling those two things together would point out what would happen. And a sealed water bottle would be isochoric, for the most part, up until some part of the bottle fails due to the pressure inside. Fortunately, no one was hurt, but I've seen these things explode when I was high school, we were bored, and were just blowing up bottles of aluminum foil and drano in a park.

Yea I didn't really read the article.
 

werepossum

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That's pretty much the opinion I had when this story was new. She had to know what she was doing, and deserved a suspension, but that's about it.
Agreed. I'm not buying the innocent victim act, but a suspension would be plenty for a harmless high school prank.

you know what they say?

butter knives are the crossbows of tomorrow.

unfortunately "they" are fucking crazy
:D +1

Where are you getting 8th grade and baking soda+vinegar from? She was a high school junior who took a cleaning product and mixed it with aluminum foil. Just googling those two things together would point out what would happen. And a sealed water bottle would be isochoric, for the most part, up until some part of the bottle fails due to the pressure inside. Fortunately, no one was hurt, but I've seen these things explode when I was high school, we were bored, and were just blowing up bottles of aluminum foil and drano in a park.
When I was a teenager we made black powder pipe bombs when we were bored. I shudder to think how such behavior would be viewed today. Although we DID have the good sense to not bring them to nor set them off at school.

We did sometimes bring rifles and shotguns and hunting bows to school though, and as long as they stayed in the vehicle it wasn't a big deal.
 

GoPackGo

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Back in the day Mr. Wizard would have called this "Kitchen Chemistry" and not a felony.
 

Newell Steamer

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Scientific data (climate change) is dismissed.
Medical doctors who perform legal procedures (abortions) are being threatened and have been killed.
A creationist museum is passed as fact.
Corporations are respected and protected on matters that would pertain to an individual human beings' religious belief.
Vaccinations are being refused to children.

This country is indeed going someplace; back in time.

You can thank conservatives for that. Their defective minds don't have anything to worry and be alarmist about, so they want to push us back into the stone age, so they can scream about bears and wild animals. They demand modern progression is halted and reverted, so they may continue to be relevant.
 

GoPackGo

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Scientific data (climate change) is dismissed.
Medical doctors who perform legal procedures (abortions) are being threatened and have been killed.
A creationist museum is passed as fact.
Corporations are respected and protected on matters that would pertain to an individual human beings' religious belief.
Vaccinations are being refused to children.

This country is indeed going someplace; back in time.

You can thank conservatives for that. Their defective minds don't have anything to worry and be alarmist about, so they want to push us back into the stone age, so they can scream about bears and wild animals. They demand modern progression is halted and reverted, so they may continue to be relevant.

We have plastic and the world is now finished with us.
 

Knowing

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When I was in elementary school the "older kids" told us all about this. By the time it was our turn to be juvenile delinquents the store had a policy and the town had a law.

Youtube has a video from 6 years ago showing what happens so I can't really get on board with the ignorance excuse.