More than 4 in 5 enrolled in 'Obamacare' are in Trump states...oh, the ironing!!!

[Meghan54]

Did anyone catch this tidbit? The ironing is incredible.....

Americans in states that Donald Trump carried in his march to the White House account for more than 4 in 5 of those signed up for coverage under the health care law the president still wants to take down.

An Associated Press analysis of new figures from the government found that 7.3 million of the 8.8 million consumers signed up so far for next year come from states Trump won in the 2016 presidential election. The four states with the highest number of sign-ups — Florida, Texas, North Carolina and Georgia, accounting for nearly 3.9 million customers — were all Trump states.

AP's analysis found that 11 states beat 2017's enrollment figures. Of them, eight —Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota and Wyoming— went for Trump, who posted double-digit victories in all but Iowa.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...are-are-in-trump-states/ar-BBHams5?li=BBnb7KB

 

[greatnoob]

I hope Trump kills repeals Obummercare. Keeping that one promise will keep Trumptards happy even if it comes at the cost of them dying. Win-win, thanks natural selection!

 

[Puffnstuff]

The irony is how his supporters don't investigate anything for themselves and rely upon right wing sources like Fox to provide them with guidance. My parents fall into this category and no matter what scholarly evidence you provide them about a matter they continue to believe what they want to. They were just complaining the other day about how their medicare costs are going up yet they refuse to believe that Republicans are responsible.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Dont worry, jerb creators will have plenty of funds to reinvest in those areas. Im sure theyll get employer bene's right along with it.

 

[kage69]

Good. These idiots deserve it.

Doesn't matter how many corporations and republicans bend them over the barrel and dispense with the Vaseline. It's always the fault of Dems and the media. Fake news and marxists are responsible for the wallet sodomy and antiquated industries dying out.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Just like this:

 

[ch33zw1z]

Just like this:

 

[Brainonska511]

The irony is how his supporters don't investigate anything for themselves and rely upon right wing sources like Fox to provide them with guidance. My parents fall into this category and no matter what scholarly evidence you provide them about a matter they continue to believe what they want to. They were just complaining the other day about how their medicare costs are going up yet they refuse to believe that Republicans are responsible.

They'd rather go back to the "good old days", where through ignorance, they thought they had good coverage. Except the reality was there were huge gaps in their plans, or low lifetime spending limits which are quickly exhausted in a serious medical event. Or they just couldn't afford coverage at all because individual plans were priced ridiculously high.

 

[tweaker2]

Yeh, what an awkward situation these folks find themselves in.

Love the ACA yet hate Obamacare.

Love the push for Repeal and Replace yet don't want their healthcare taken away by their own Repub Congress critters.

Love Trump and his fellow Repub crooks in Congress yet refuse to blame them for taking away their essential entitlements that they heavily rely on of which the Democrats gave them in the first place.

Love the tax cuts Trump and the Repub controlled Congress gave themselves and the very wealthy, yet refuse to admit they got totally screwed over in the process.

Love the fact that Trump won the election yet refuse to acknowledge the fact that Trump is his and their own worst enemy.

Love aaaaaaall of those promises that Trump gave them during his presidential campaign yet refuse to admit that they were all a bunch of lies, empty promises, cheap salesmanship and the fact that they were fooled into believing that Mexico was going to pay for The Great Wall of America (I get the giggles every time I think of that), he was going to bring jobs back to America, he was going to go after the Big Corps, drain the swamp, make the prosperity of the middle class his highest priority and on and on and on.

Love their Repub Congress members wasting millions of tax $$$ chasing after Benghazi ghosts and hate the fact that those ridiculously numerous investigations resulted in exonerating Hillary of any crime every single time. Frustrated much?

Love the idea of blocking immigration (especially for those brownies) yet ignore the fact that their own parents, grandparents etc. were immigrants themselves.

Such a confusing time for Trump admirers and Repubs in general.

 

[Moonbeam]

Human knowledge is growing at a faster and faster pace. Soon people will be too backward to keep up by the time they are 20. And it will only get worse. Anybody read the Mote in God's Eye? I think that's the right name.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Anybody read the Mote in God's Eye?

That's been my favorite book since I first read it in middle school. The entire premise of a race of people aging at an accelerated pace was profound and see several generations pass in the time that it took for a human to utter a sentence was fascinating.

These days I always recommend Animal Farm and 1984 if someone wants to read a book.

 

[whm1974]

Human knowledge is growing at a faster and faster pace. Soon people will be too backward to keep up by the time they are 20. And it will only get worse. Anybody read the Mote in God's Eye? I think that's the right name.

Yeah I read the book as well. I think the problem with people now days is that they don't want to take the effort to learn.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Did anyone catch this tidbit? The ironing is incredible.....




https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...are-are-in-trump-states/ar-BBHams5?li=BBnb7KB

Why is it ironic? It is quite possible to require something but also resent being dependent on the government to provide it. We outsourced and automated blue collar and middle class jobs faster than we could provide an alternative source of employment, and implemented a health care system that does nothing more than subsidize an inherently flawed insurance industry driven system.

The only good thing that may come from all of this is that Democrats may actually gain enough momentum to do something bold like single payer.

 

[Moonbeam]

Why is it ironic? It is quite possible to require something but also resent being dependent on the government to provide it. We outsourced and automated blue collar and middle class jobs faster than we could provide an alternative source of employment, and implemented a health care system that does nothing more than subsidize an inherently flawed insurance industry driven system.

The only good thing that may come from all of this is that Democrats may actually gain enough momentum to do something bold like single payer.

I think you are failing to include in your reckoning the fact that democracy is dead. Money also owns the Democratic Party and there will be nothing bold happening that first doesn’t bring revolution. We are lost so long as money is speech and corporations are people. Job one is to elect a president who will support such a revolution and wins campaigning on it. People just can’t seem to wrap their heads around the fact we no longer have a functioning democracy or a people who understand it. We will have consious evolution to collapse. What you have called bold measures is tinkering around at the edges.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Make sure not to do any analysis and take everything for what you presume.

For example, when 4 out of 5 enrolled in ACA are in "Trump States" make sure to presume that those that are enrolled (or rather, the majority that are enrolled) in fact voted for Trump.

Or just do like you're currently doing... and actually make posts saying that you hope they suffer... even though you might just be telling your majority of your party voters that you hope THEY are the ones that suffered since you didn't think to any analysis on whom the "4 out of 5" are.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Human knowledge is growing at a faster and faster pace. Soon people will be too backward to keep up by the time they are 20. And it will only get worse. Anybody read the Mote in God's Eye? I think that's the right name.

Yes I did and "The Gripping Hand" too, do you see it as a critique of present day society as "Gulliver's Travels" was?

 

[Moonbeam]

Yes I did and "The Gripping Hand" too, do you see it as a critique of present day society as "Gulliver's Travels" was?

As I remember the story, my interpretation was that it was a comment on tribal competition, the struggle to obtain resources, the building of competitive civilizations at war with each other and ultimate collapse back to the stone age, to start the cycle all over again and again and again. Just our story extrapolated out in space and time.

 

[Capt Caveman]

And when they cut Social Security and Medicare to fund their tax reform, the old Trumptards will be punishing themselves even more

 

[Meghan54]

And when they cut Social Security and Medicare to fund their tax reform, the old Trumptards will be punishing themselves even more

That'll be proffered under the guise of "Entitlement Reform" to rid the system of the ones who game and/or abuse the system.

Of course, the way it'll be done is simply cut funding, never mind no mechanisms will be put in place to weed out those gaming and/or abusing the system.

 

[woolfe9998]

I wonder of the GOP will actually cut SS and Medicare in an election year. They're usually not that stupid when it comes to politics.

Look to Medicaid, food stamps, and the like, i.e. programs which exclusively benefit the poor.

 

[Thump553]

I wonder of the GOP will actually cut SS and Medicare in an election year. They're usually not that stupid when it comes to politics.

Look to Medicaid, food stamps, and the like, i.e. programs which exclusively benefit the poor.

Look at the incredibly regressive and anti-populist tax bill they rammed through. I am absolutely certain they will try to gut not only Medicaid, but Medicare and Social Security this upcoming year and that their efforts will pass in the House at a minimum.

 

[senseamp]

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/mike-pence-obamacare-indiana-hiv-235153

When then-Gov. Mike Pence faced the worst public health crisis to hit Indiana in decades, he turned to Obamacare — a program he vilified and voted against.
In 2015, as a rash of HIV infections spread through rural southern Indiana, state health officials parachuted into Scott County and enrolled scores of people into Obamacare's expanded Medicaid program so they could get medical care and substance abuse treatment. Many were addicted to opioids and had contracted HIV by sharing dirty needles.
Two years later, Pence is helping to lead the Republican effort to dismantle the program that helped him halt the deadly outbreak in an impoverished swathe of Indiana.

In a crisis, conservatives turn to big government.

 

[senseamp]

Red staters will just have to decide what's more important to them, conservatism or their health.

 

[JSt0rm]

Red staters will just have to decide what's more important to them, conservatism or their health.

heaven awaits.