More states may target birthright citizenship..aka..Anchor babies

Svnla

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....the "original intent" of the 14th Amendment was to grant citizenship to freed U.S. slaves, and that it was never meant to apply to the children of foreigners......lawmakers in Alabama, Arizona, Delaware, Idaho, Indiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Texas and Utah have said they want to introduce similar legislation this year.

Common sense would tell you that in order to be LEGAL, you have to have LEGAL parents. I think this may go all the way up to the US Supreme Court.

Story = http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/14-states-may-target-birthright-citizenship
 

sactoking

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Citizenship is not a State issue, it's a clearly defined Federal issue. A State passing an "anti-anchor baby" law would be about as effective as a State declaring war on Uruguay.
 

1prophet

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How about we stop being greedy sons of bitches and pay for labor the way we would expect to get paid if we had to do the job.
 

dainthomas

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Citizenship is not a State issue, it's a clearly defined Federal issue. A State passing an "anti-anchor baby" law would be about as effective as a State declaring war on Uruguay.

Pretty much this.

And now for our resident Constitutional scholars to enlighten us in 3, 2, 1....
 

Darwin333

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How about we stop being greedy sons of bitches and pay for labor the way we would expect to get paid if we had to do the job.

Because your competition isn't and your business going bankrupt isn't in your long range plans?
 

Brovane

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Citizenship is not a State issue, it's a clearly defined Federal issue. A State passing an "anti-anchor baby" law would be about as effective as a State declaring war on Uruguay.

Second this.
 

Zebo

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Seems like pretty clear language to me no matter what side of issue you are on. Like Second Amendment;)
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside...

Get over it. Change the Constitution if you don't like it.


PS: no ex post facto laws are allowed so all born here until you change it are still citizens.
 
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theeedude

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Should get thrown out in court, although with our current "strict constructionsts" you have to wonder if they've ever read the Constitution themselves.
 

Zebo

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Should get thrown out in court, although with our current "strict constructionsts" you have to wonder if they've ever read the Constitution themselves.

Actually I expect them to slam it for being constructionists. 9-0 8-1 easy if it even gets there.
 

dainthomas

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Seems like pretty clear language to me no matter what side of issue you are on. Like Second Amendment;)


Get over it. Change the Constitution if you don't like it.

Why change it when you can just ignore it, then score political points by decrying the "judicial activists" who overturn it?
 

theeedude

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Actually I expect them to slam it for being constructionists. 9-0 8-1 easy if it even gets there.

With Thomas, Scalia, and Alito on there, you have to wonder if those guys are capable of acting as anything other than GOP political operatives.
 

CaptnKirk

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Make it retroactive for ALL - and give it back to the Indians.
But wait . . were not the vast majority of those of Indian decent
from areas that are now in Mexico?

Hello Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Nevada, and California !
 

Kadarin

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I would support a new Constitutional Amendment that specifically targeted the anchor baby issue, as there's no way in hell I want my tax dollars to support education, health care, or any other government services for illegals and their children.
 

nick1985

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I would support a new Constitutional Amendment that specifically targeted the anchor baby issue, as there's no way in hell I want my tax dollars to support education, health care, or any other government services for illegals and their children.

same
 

Zebo

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I would support a new Constitutional Amendment that specifically targeted the anchor baby issue, as there's no way in hell I want my tax dollars to support education, health care, or any other government services for illegals and their children.

Will never happen. Money interests love illegals and unlimited immigration. Keeps labor costs low and keeps people arguing at the bottom and off of them. Spend some time at Chamber of Commerce web site. They have been pimping amnesty and open borders as long as I've been alive.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Citizenship is not a State issue, it's a clearly defined Federal issue. A State passing an "anti-anchor baby" law would be about as effective as a State declaring war on Uruguay.

Correct. The language in the Constitution is pretty clear and therefore, I doubt anything short of an amendment could possibly reverse it.
 

Jhhnn

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Seems like pretty clear language to me no matter what side of issue you are on. Like Second Amendment;)


Get over it. Change the Constitution if you don't like it.


PS: no ex post facto laws are allowed so all born here until you change it are still citizens.

It's also a matter of settled law for over 100 years. See United States v. Wong Kim Ark 169 U.S. 649 (1898).

The whole issue is the lamest of distractions furnished by the people at the top of the Repub party to their most ignorant members. American business luvs illegals, and will fight hard to see that they stay illegal. They're completely disposable, they work for nearly nothing, and they'll never organize to assert their rights, because they don't have any. And they're an easy scapegoat for the class warfare top down looting that's been going on for 30 years.

Our problems aren't because income has shifted radically to the top, or because Reaganomics was a lie all along, or because America's wealthiest are offshoring investment and jobs as fast as possible- Couldn't be! It's them illegals, particularly the brown ones! Yeh, that's it! It's them, not Us, not the Wealthiest people you adore and admire, dote on our every word as if it were gospel. It is gospel, honest! Believe!

Freakin' Mow-rons.
 

Sinsear

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I would support a new Constitutional Amendment that specifically targeted the anchor baby issue, as there's no way in hell I want my tax dollars to support education, health care, or any other government services for illegals and their children.


This is the answer.
 

IGBT

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so what other country in the world allows such lunacy i.e. automatic citizenship when the parents are criminals in violation of immigration laws??
 

dullard

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A non-issue. Having anchor babies to get you into the country is basically a myth. It isn't like that actually gets you into the country legally (and often makes that harder). Yes, the babies can be citizens, but they aren't anchors.

And anyways, your issue isn't with the law. So, stop trying to adjust the law.

For example, if the government suddenly made everyone in the world citizens, would this problem go away? Yes, there would be no more anchor babies. But I suspect that you still wouldn't be happy. Thus, anchor babies aren't what you are unhappy with. Try to fix what you are really unhappy with instead of this nearly non-existant phenomenon.
 
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