More Schools Need This

[destrekor]

Required Class for Fatties

:biggrin: @ the journalism student being upset she has to take a remedial course. Don't fall into the remedial category, you don't have to take it.

I wholly support this approach. If you are fat, you are remedial at physical health.
No, that doesn't imply everyone who isn't fat is healthy, on the contrary. You don't have to be in remedial math to suck at math, but you do well enough to at least meet the basic requirements and it is the advanced classes that give you trouble.
If you are overweight, you are failing at the most basic level - input is greater than output.
That class is teaching greater output, and probably helping instruct how to do more diet management so that an insane output isn't needed to match the high input, but rather to lower the input and maintain a good output.

More schools need to implement such a thing, and it definitely needs to happen in schools. Sadly, parenting sucks, so in elementary and high school it's hard to mandate physical fitness levels because parents may be completely uncooperative in helping manage the kid's health when out of school.
But in college, you are an adult, and have full management over your lifestyle. If you don't want to graduate, that's on you. But if you're a fattie and want to graduate, you need to shape up.
Obesity has a toll on society just as much as it does on the individual. Yes, we are "the land of the free", but I am NOT free to support your fat ass with government funded disability aid and health coverage and the cost of extra services required to help support the obese. Even if you aren't THAT obese, the cost to yourself and loved ones is still high.

Still don't understand just HOW people let themselves get morbidly obese, but whatever.

this should be a fun thread

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Despite the fact that I have a slightly high Body Mass Index

Don't they only make you take the course if your BMI is >30?

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[darkswordsman17]

Holy shit, this is for college? WTF?

 

[69Mach1]

Required Class for Fatties

:biggrin: @ the journalism student being upset she has to take a remedial course. Don't fall into the remedial category, you don't have to take it.



Yes, we are "the land of the free", but I am NOT free to support your fat ass with government funded disability aid and health coverage and the cost of extra services required to help support the obese. Even if you aren't THAT obese, the cost to yourself and loved ones is still high.

Still don't understand just HOW people let themselves get morbidly obese, but whatever.

this should be a fun thread

Then we need to end the government support for making this choice, not mandate your version of fitness. If everyone has to pay for themselves then it's none of your business, as it should be.

 

[destrekor]

Then we need to end the government support for making this choice, not mandate your version of fitness. If everyone has to pay for themselves then it's none of your business, as it should be.

as it should be, but good luck ever getting that to be how things are ran. As much as I hate all forms of social aid such as welfare and whatnot, they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[TruePaige]

Physical Education is retarded. I can't believe they grade people on that bullshit.

If someone wants to play dodge ball or volleyball they can do so on their own, I am not in favor of wasting our already limited academic time on non academic courses.

SCHOOLS ARE FOR LEARNING.

 

[ballmode]

Fat people drive up my health care

 

[thecoolnessrune]

My college until last year required people to pass a swimming test to be allowed to graduate.

 

[destrekor]

Physical Education is retarded. I can't believe they grade people on that bullshit.

If someone wants to play dodge ball or volleyball they can do so on their own, I am not in favor of wasting our already limited academic time on non academic courses.

SCHOOLS ARE FOR LEARNING.

Being required to learn to take care of your body is retarded?
That's the most fundamental thing to learn, and if other places aren't teaching it, college has to pick up the slack.

 

[69Mach1]

as it should be, but good luck ever getting that to be how things are ran. As much as I hate all forms of social aid such as welfare and whatnot, they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

Well, I break govt. aid into 2 kinds, Help for things you had no control of, and help for bad choices. I have no problem helping people with things they had no way to predict or control. I get really bent about spending piles of money helping people with shit anyone could tell you was going to happen. When you make the choice to smoke, or eat too much, or not exercise, etc, everyone else should not have to pay for it. We are the land of the free, so I believe you should be free to make bad choices all you want. Just don't expect me to feel sorry for you when it has its consequences, and don't expect me to pay for it.

 

[TruePaige]

Being required to learn to take care of your body is retarded?
That's the most fundamental thing to learn, and if other places aren't teaching it, college has to pick up the slack.

Physical education is not academic.

Schools are a place for academic education.

Nutritional courses are academic, physical education are not.

Decent colleges don't require you to do stupid stuff like that, in fact for the physical wellness requirement in gen ed's they advise transfer students not to take a physical education class like weight lifting / snowboarding / bowling because they just don't transfer well to decent schools, instead they recommend personal nutrition or CPR / Life Saving Skills courses where you actually learn something (even if I think most of those are borderline in the land of academic, but just good enough to be general ed's)

 

[Bibble]

My school has a physical fitness requirement of two half-semester classes. I took ultimate frisbee and bowling.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Being required to learn to take care of your body is retarded?
That's the most fundamental thing to learn, and if other places aren't teaching it, college has to pick up the slack.

Colleges are for teaching higher learning; It's absolutely not their place in every sense to be teaching basic life management (I probably have one of the lowest male BMIs on these forums).

 

[MotF Bane]

BMI is a pretty poor measure of health.

 

[waffleironhead]

reminds me of my HS grad requirements.

4 years of PE
3 years English
2 years math
2 years science

Something is way out of whack if you need more PE to graduate than academic courses.

 

[skace]

Colleges are for teaching higher learning; It's absolutely not their place in every sense to be teaching basic life management (I probably have one of the lowest male BMIs on these forums).

The term "higher learning" is subjective. And in our current situation, proper eating habits and physical fitness could be considered higher learning.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

The term "higher learning" is subjective. And in our current situation, proper eating habits and physical fitness could be considered higher learning.

No, I'm sorry, but they can't in anyway be said to be such. Even if every person in the US had a BMI over 40 it wouldn't be higher learning. Being subjective migth give it some wiggleroom, but even in the extremes it still isn't.

 

[TruePaige]

The term "higher learning" is subjective. And in our current situation, proper eating habits and physical fitness could be considered higher learning.

Offer them as electives, I shouldn't have to be paying to hear the basics of life.

Someone paid to teach how to run until your heart rate is at the proper point doesn't belong in an institute of higher learning.

Higher learning isn't that subjective.

 

[nonameo]

reminds me of my HS grad requirements.

4 years of PE
3 years English
2 years math
2 years science

Something is way out of whack if you need more PE to graduate than academic courses.

Wow, only 2 years of math?

 

[shortylickens]

99% of obesity is caused by fucking laziness and stupidity.
If my first year classes at community college are any indication: The laziness and stupidity issues as a whole need to be corrected.
The positive effects of health and knowledge will come eventually.

 

[hanoverphist]

my univ didnt have any reqs for physical fitness classes. im ok with that. of course, i am overweight now, but i wasnt when i went to univ...

 

[Vette73]

BMI is a pretty poor measure of health.

For most it gives a very good picture. For the very few they also have this built in as well...

"Because BMI is not a perfect measure of obesity, students also have their waist circumference measured, he said. There are some people who have a high BMI because of their muscle mass, but are not actually obese, and the waist measurement is meant to weed out those people."

 

[PlasmaBomb]

For most it gives a very good picture. For the very few they also have this built in as well...

"Because BMI is not a perfect measure of obesity, students also have their waist circumference measured, he said. There are some people who have a high BMI because of their muscle mass, but are not actually obese, and the waist measurement is meant to weed out those people."

To a point your body doesn't care what the extra weight is, extra weight puts more stress on the system.

Sure excess visceral fat makes things worse...

 

[Jeraden]

The same argument could be used against having general education requirements in colleges too. Like what benefit does taking multiple years of a foreign language gain me when my major had absolutely nothing to do with foreign languages. You go to college for 4 years, but only 2 years of that is actually relevant to your major usually. But if you support those, saying it makes you a more diverse and well rounded person in general, then being educated on how to take care of your body and your health also makes you a more diverse and in this case, hopefully less well-rounded person in general.

 

[destrekor]

To a point your body doesn't care what the extra weight is, extra weight puts more stress on the system.

Sure excess visceral fat makes things worse...

lol what?

Extra muscle weight doesn't stress the body at all. If you have an insanely massive amount of muscle it might stress the joints and ligaments involved in bipedal movement (aka your legs, mainly knees and ankles). But that's not hardly the same as stressing the body in an unhealthy way.

High muscle/low fat means your body is using the nutrients properly. You cannot build muscle without mostly proper nutrition, and if you have low fat that means you aren't storing unnecessary nutrition.
There are other factors, such as the amount of lipids in the blood, intake of important fats, proteins and amino acids, many things are great but too much can be bad. Too little can be more dangerous.

I boiled this down a lot, don't feel like making this an essay. Someone might try and refute something I said about health, but fuck it, that's not the point.