More ROOMATE Drama inside !

[polm]

OK...So here is the latest and greates between me and my 2 roomates. To make a long story short THEY (not me) got in a hugr fight and decided they COULD NOT live with each other. All 3 of us are on the lease (which ends in July 03) .

RoomateA sais he will gladly leave, but that he WILL NOT pay his 1/3 of the lease, and if the landlady tries to make him he will bring in his big shot Lawyers to pressure the landlady into either letting him out of the lease, or destroying it all together.

RoomateB sais he will leave as long as he doesnt have to pay his 1/3. He sais if push comes to shove on the money, then he will just stay and pay...but he wont leave and pay.

I am completely out of the argument, but all I claim is that I DO NOT want to pay extra and I DO NOT want to leave. I love the house we live in.

So RoomateA and RoomateB work this out:

RoomateB will leave and RoomateA will get another roomate (whom I will have to approve as well as the landlady) .... I agreed to this but made it clear that this wasnt going to be a QUICK thing. Well they both got impatient and have decided (without really talking to me) that RoomateB will leave next week...he wont have to pay....and RoomateA just EXPECTS me to cover the extra !

WHAT THE FARK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I HATE ROOMATES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any advice ???

 

[StageLeft]

Roomates suck the balls. What if you go to landlady and explain to her and say that you have no intention of paying more than 1/3 and see what she says about it. Do you legally have to cover that 1/3? I dunno...

 

[polm]

Actually...legally we all three owe...that means if the money isn't there and she wants to sue (sp?) for it...she would have to sue (sp?) all 3 of us.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: polm
Actually...legally we all three owe...that means if the money isn't there and she wants to sue (sp?) for it...she would have to sue (sp?) all 3 of us.

But how does that work? If you and another guy are paying your 1/3 who would be responsible for the other 1/3? All 3 yes but how does it really work? If you've paid 2/3 along with other guy why do you now have to pay the other 1/3? SHouldn't a sue be split 3 ways, so that each person pays 1/3?

 

[polm]

Your probably right...but I am no lawyer.

Basically RoomateA keeps telling RoomateB that he can go because we (RoomateA and I) will pay the difference. I told RoomateA, originally, that I we should setup a time frame where RoomateB has to pay up to a certain point so that he can leave and we are not forced to get another roomate ASAP.

Well we are having problems finding another roomate (it has been 2 weeks) and they are getting too impatient to keep living together.

Am I being too nice by allowing any kind of deal to be made ? Should I just tell them they have to figure out eh money situation and that I will only continue to pay my 1/3 ?

If we setup a deal where RoomateB has to pay a certain amount of guaranteed time to give us time to find a roomate how long should the time frame be ??

 

[Ameesh]

if i were you i would goto the landlady and tell her you will gladly pay your share of the expenses but the other 2 are being immature, ask for her advice and get her to be on your side.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: polm
Your probably right...but I am no lawyer.

Basically RoomateA keeps telling RoomateB that he can go because we (RoomateA and I) will pay the difference. I told RoomateA, originally, that I we should setup a time frame where RoomateB has to pay up to a certain point so that he can leave and we are not forced to get another roomate ASAP.

Well we are having problems finding another roomate (it has been 2 weeks) and they are getting too impatient to keep living together.

Am I being too nice by allowing any kind of deal to be made ? Should I just tell them they have to figure out eh money situation and that I will only continue to pay my 1/3 ?

If we setup a deal where RoomateB has to pay a certain amount of guaranteed time to give us time to find a roomate how long should the time frame be ??

you are being a pushover. just tell im in the lease for 1/3 im paying that you ywpo have to pay the other 2/3s make them deal with it.

 

[polm]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
if i were you i would goto the landlady and tell her you will gladly pay your share of the expenses but the other 2 are being immature, ask for her advice and get her to be on your side.

She is on my side. She is telling me not to make a deal and to let the lease speak for itself. If I do that then it could get really ugly.

 

[Doggiedog]

That is why you never live or work in groups of 3. They never work out. Either someone gangs up on the other or one guy is caught in the middle.

<=== Did the 3 roommate gig 10 years ago in college and went through the same stuff.

 

[polm]

you are being a pushover. just tell im in the lease for 1/3 im paying that you ywpo have to pay the other 2/3s make them deal with it.

You are 100% correct...but I am only being a pushover because I am close with both of my roomates. I think, unfortunately, in the end I will lose. Heres why:

RoomateA doesnt even work..his folks give him rent money and they are willing to cough up the extra to cover the extra half of RoomateB's rent.

RoomateB gets to move out and not pay a dime extra.

I am stuck with an extra 1/6 th rent for NOT SH1T !!!! And I have to earn it !!!

 

[polm]

Honestly I thought they would work it out maturely with each other. I figured if one of them had to leave they would take care of their financial responsiblity...I guess I was wrong

 

[lilFajita]

If you guys have signed three seperate leases, then you shouldn't be responsible for Roommate B's 1/3. But this stuff can get very sticky. I think you should approach Roommate A and explain to him again that you thought you were clear before when you said that you will not pay anymore. Say that you were not part of the issue, and you don't understand why you have to pay extra.

Its really not fair of them to assume. If you have made yourself clear, then you are justified to let them duke it out on their own.

 

[polm]

Originally posted by: LilFajita
If you guys have signed three seperate leases, then you shouldn't be responsible for Roommate B's 1/3. But this stuff can get very sticky. I think you should approach Roommate A and explain to him again that you thought you were clear before when you said that you will not pay anymore. Say that you were not part of the issue, and you don't understand why you have to pay extra.

Its really not fair of them to assume. If you have made yourself clear, then you are justified to let them duke it out on their own.

Unfortunately what will happen is RoomateA and RoomateB will REFUSE to pay and we will ALL get kicked out as well as possibly getting sued.

I DONT WANT TO MOVE OUT !! IT ISNT FAIR THAT I HAVE TO CUZ OF THEM !!!

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: polm

Originally posted by: LilFajita
If you guys have signed three seperate leases, then you shouldn't be responsible for Roommate B's 1/3. But this stuff can get very sticky. I think you should approach Roommate A and explain to him again that you thought you were clear before when you said that you will not pay anymore. Say that you were not part of the issue, and you don't understand why you have to pay extra.

Its really not fair of them to assume. If you have made yourself clear, then you are justified to let them duke it out on their own.

Unfortunately what will happen is RoomateA and RoomateB will REFUSE to pay and we will ALL get kicked out as well as possibly getting sued.

I DONT WANT TO MOVE OUT !! IT ISNT FAIR THAT I HAVE TO CUZ OF THEM !!!

It really sucks.

I have 5 roomates so we all keep each other in check .....

They ate my dinner one night all iof my lunch for this week, but we'll see



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Seriosuly, they are not bad, and we all have to deal with living together......we end up working our prolems out maturely for the better.




As for that Asshole "roomate A" of yours, he SIGNED A LEGAL CONTRACT....therefore he MUST HONOR it or face the consequesnces....

I work 40+ hours a week for my rent so I too would be pissed to have to WASTE money on some little pricks ininquities...

Judge Judy anyone?

 

[WhoDeeny]

A friend of mine was in a similar situation where her roommate left and didn't pay. She got evicted too ('cause she couldn't afford to pay the other half and the landlord didn't care) and it went on her rental history AND her credit report. What needs to happen, is whomever leaving is responsible for finding their own replacement and either stays there and avoids the other until the replacement is found or moves out and pays their part until ones found. There really isn't any other way unless you can get the landlord to make some special arrangment, which is unlikely. They can and will get all three of you for even just one of you screwing the others over.

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: polm
Actually...legally we all three owe...that means if the money isn't there and she wants to sue (sp?) for it...she would have to sue (sp?) all 3 of us.

But how does that work? If you and another guy are paying your 1/3 who would be responsible for the other 1/3? All 3 yes but how does it really work? If you've paid 2/3 along with other guy why do you now have to pay the other 1/3? SHouldn't a sue be split 3 ways, so that each person pays 1/3?

the landlady can sue the three people for the 1/3rd that wasnt paid (written agreement, lease). the two roomates that did pay the 2/3rds can sue the third roomate for the 1/3rd he didnt pay (verbal agreement).

 

[weezergirl]

you're friends are SOOOOO lame. i know that if one of my friends decided to leave they would either find a replacement or pay their share...there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. i can't even believe your roommates are acting this way...how old are they? i don't really see how your friend can get some hot shot lawyers to break the lease either. There's no legitimate reason to have to break it.

god, tell your friends to GROW UP! i hate people like that.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: josphII

the landlady can sue the three people for the 1/3rd that wasnt paid (written agreement, lease). the two roomates that did pay the 2/3rds can sue the third roomate for the 1/3rd he didnt pay (verbal agreement).

I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way, at least that's what I learned from reading the "Renter Watch" section of the LA Times every Sunday. 3 people on the lease = each is responsible for 1/3 of the rent. If one skips early, that person is directly responsible to the landlord.

 

[jjones]

A lease is a lease and you typically can't break it so your roommate friend who says he'll get a lawyer is full of it. Basically you have one of two choices and in either case you'll have to pressure your friend to pay until a new roommate is found.

One: your roommate bails and you don't pay the extra thereby eventually getting evicted.

Or two: your roommate bails and you cough up the extra yourself until you can get a new roommmate.

Either way, your roommate is being a dick if he doesn't cover the rent until you have a new roommate. You need to make him own up to his responsibility and if he doesn't, then I guess you really weren't friends after all and chalk it up to one of life's lessons.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: PipBoy

Originally posted by: josphII

the landlady can sue the three people for the 1/3rd that wasnt paid (written agreement, lease). the two roomates that did pay the 2/3rds can sue the third roomate for the 1/3rd he didnt pay (verbal agreement).

I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way, at least that's what I learned from reading the "Renter Watch" section of the LA Times every Sunday. 3 people on the lease = each is responsible for 1/3 of the rent. If one skips early, that person is directly responsible to the landlord.

No, typically all persons on the lease are responsible for the full payment of the rent unless specifically stated otherwise. There is no breaking up of the rent amount between the 3; they are equally responsible and the only thing that matters is that the amount in full gets paid. If there is a stipulation in the lease regarding the splitting of the payment amount amongst them then that is another matter but that scenario is highly unlikely.

 

[kh3443]

I have a female roomate who I can't really complain about, she even told me she needed a boy toy.....hmmmmm

 

[alkemyst]

There is much motivation in a pillow case and a bar of irish spring.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: kh3443
I have a female roomate who I can't really complain about, she even told me she needed a boy toy.....hmmmmm

You lucky....

1)SOB
2)bastid

 

[Frosty3799]

Just don't let roommate B leave (or just stop paying rent) until he finds a replacement. I am sure they can last a few more weeks together, and that will be incentive for one of them to find a new roommate for the house.

Don't let roommate B leave until someone is lined up... or is roommate A wants to cover full 2/3's

 

[Gooberlx2]

Without reading the whole thread:

BEFORE RoomateB gets too far into packing, let him know that you're NOT paying the extra rent. Further, reiterate that statement to RoomyA. Tell them both to find a new roomate first, but that you're NOT paying the extra rent. You're all liable to pay that rent. If someone leaves and refuses to pay then you and RoomyX legally must cough up the dough, or ship out. The landlord couldn't care less who that $$$ comes from so long as it comes from someone. On the flip side, if the $$$ isn't there you'll find yourself on the street in about 1.5 months.

If no roomate is found then ask yourself which do you NOT wanna do more: Pay extra rent, or leave the house? You can't have both.

Personally, I'd tear them both new a$$holes for putting me in such a situation; especially RoomyA since he "assumes/expects" you to cover the extra rent.

[edit] I doubt you'd get sued. I've done the landlord thing (Apt. maintainence primarily but also some of the "lording" duties) and it was never worth our while to try to sue. But we were quick to evict to try to minimize our losses. As a landlord I wouldn't shed a tear over your situation either (not 'cause I'm an a$$hole, but because it's a business). The lease does speak for itself, clearly. Read over it again to be sure of your personal financial responsibility. You may not have to find another roomy, or pay extra rent. But then that often means the landlord will find one for you (which is not always good). [/edit]