More ridiculous drivel from Ben Stein

[DukeN]

http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yourlife/127875

This has to be the most stupidest piece of drivel I have read in a long time. Bailout the big three because the Germans and the Japanese committed atrocities in WW2!

Also, Yahoo seems to be self-censoring every comment in there. Every comment seems to get removed, but its hilarious to read all the comments from people that gave it one or two stars (two is generous IMO).

 

[halik]

He needs to stick to eye product commercials

 

[JS80]

Knowing his ideology, I am kind of shocked he wrote this...

 

[dphantom]

Originally posted by: DukeN
http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yourlife/127875

This has to be the most stupidest piece of drivel I have read in a long time. Bailout the big three because the Germans and the Japanese committed atrocities in WW2!

Also, Yahoo seems to be self-censoring every comment in there. Every comment seems to get removed, but its hilarious to read all the comments from people that gave it one or two stars (two is generous IMO).

You need to learn how to read. Nowhere did he say the above bolded. What he did say was becasue we could help Ger/JA after WWII, we should help our auto companies today.

I neitehr agree or disagree with what he said. No opinion. But at least try to be accurate when you post. Don't embarass yourself.

 

[StageLeft]

and are famously wasteful.

Haha, and he's arguing FOR bailout out the big 3?

BTW, his second paragraph I really think is spot-on.

There are millions of Americans already hard at work

Bolded for lulz.

Anyway, the rest of the piece is a bit weak, I've seen Ben do better.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

What a damn fool. How is an Ivy League educated lawyer going to have the audacity to say professors only work 6 hours a week? What a complete asshat. This article is nothing but pandering to the working class, as though a pat on the back from a washed-up actor is the best these guys can hope for. Disgusting.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: DukeN
This has to be the most stupidest piece of drivel I have read in a long time. Bailout the big three because the Germans and the Japanese committed atrocities in WW2!

You didn't actually read the article yourself, did you? Otherwise your reading comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired. :roll:

 

[DukeN]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: DukeN
This has to be the most stupidest piece of drivel I have read in a long time. Bailout the big three because the Germans and the Japanese committed atrocities in WW2!

You didn't actually read the article yourself, did you? Otherwise your reading comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired. :roll:

No, but that was clearly mentioned for a reason. So morons would point out that he didn't say that directly, but clearly there is an inference to the fact that the Japanese and the German auto-makers are doing much better than than the Americans.

Then again, no surprise from Mr Senile.

 

[davestar]

I drive only American cars, only GM cars actually, and they are the best, coolest cars I have ever driven

well if that isn't proof of the quality of American-made cars, i don't know what is.

similarly, i only drink Miller Light, and it is the best beer i have ever had. therefore, it is the best beer available.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: JS80
Knowing his ideology, I am kind of shocked he wrote this...

this.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: davestar

I drive only American cars, only GM cars actually, and they are the best, coolest cars I have ever driven

well if that isn't proof of the quality of American-made cars, i don't know what is.

similarly, i only drink Miller Light, and it is the best beer i have ever had. therefore, it is the best beer available.

Granted. Tim Hortons, my preference for fast food coffee, makes the best coffee in the world. It's actually saved my life a few times, too.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: DukeN

Originally posted by: cubby1223
You didn't actually read the article yourself, did you?

No

:roll:


Change the thread title to "More ridiculous drivel from DukeN"

 

[Dissipate]

Ben Stein is a creationist nut bag. He has a lot in common with resident ATP&N voodoo economists.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: DukeN

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: DukeN
This has to be the most stupidest piece of drivel I have read in a long time. Bailout the big three because the Germans and the Japanese committed atrocities in WW2!

You didn't actually read the article yourself, did you? Otherwise your reading comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired. :roll:

No, but that was clearly mentioned for a reason. So morons would point out that he didn't say that directly, but clearly there is an inference to the fact that the Japanese and the German auto-makers are doing much better than than the Americans.

Then again, no surprise from Mr Senile.

What he said was that we help everyone else, but ignore ourselves. You don't seem to comprehend that part. He could have gone with plenty of other examples, but he went for the biggest one.

Oh, and it has nothing to do with who is doing well, as forcasts for auto companies for the next few years have been rather abysmal. The German big three are going to be especially hard hit.

 

[DukeN]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: DukeN

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: DukeN
This has to be the most stupidest piece of drivel I have read in a long time. Bailout the big three because the Germans and the Japanese committed atrocities in WW2!

You didn't actually read the article yourself, did you? Otherwise your reading comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired. :roll:

No, but that was clearly mentioned for a reason. So morons would point out that he didn't say that directly, but clearly there is an inference to the fact that the Japanese and the German auto-makers are doing much better than than the Americans.

Then again, no surprise from Mr Senile.

What he said was that we help everyone else, but ignore ourselves. You don't seem to comprehend that part. He could have gone with plenty of other examples, but he went for the biggest one.

Oh, and it has nothing to do with who is doing well, as forcasts for auto companies for the next few years have been rather abysmal. The German big three are going to be especially hard hit.

So deeds done in the past form basis of decisions made today? Because the US helped countries years, even decades ago I guess the USA is now obligated to make similar decisions today. Even if the social, economic and political climates are different.

The Germans are probably going to be hard hit like the rest but their products are much more desirable than the US ones, atleast in my books.

(That being said my personal preferences for a car mfr would be Toyota or Nissan).

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: DukeN
http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yourlife/127875

This has to be the most stupidest piece of drivel

*head explodes*

 

[Descartes]

I think he exceed his rhetorical question threshold. What was a painful read.

I enjoyed this part though:

Second, I get sick when I hear about how this or that professor says we cannot have bailouts in a free market. Really? How about the bailouts the professors get because gifts to colleges are tax free? How about the bailout they get because if they have to teach six hours a week they feel overwhelmed, while the guy on the line in Dearborn works a grueling forty and doesn't whine about it?

I guess no one really knows what bailout means at this point.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: DukeN

Topic Title: More ridiculous drivel from Ben Stein

Which is why I have taken the place of who was once considered the most educated American on the internet.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: DukeN
http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yourlife/127875

This has to be the most stupidest piece of drivel I have read in a long time. Bailout the big three because the Germans and the Japanese committed atrocities in WW2!

Where does he say that? The argument he's making is that if we are going to go halfway around the world to bail out all sorts of people (Marshall plan after the war, for example) we can also bail out our own industries as well. Even if we admit to ourselves that it's nothing more than a jobs and pensions program, I'd rather pay people to build cars than pay them unemployment to sit at home and watch television. And I'd rather help the Big 3 shoulder their pension obligations, than have those same obligations dumped on the US taxpayer in bankruptcy.

 

[datalink7]

And please don't tell me how GM and Ford and Chrysler have made bad cars that people don't want. I drive only American cars, only GM cars actually, and they are the best, coolest cars I have ever driven:

So he only drives GM cars, and they are the coolest he has ever driven!

 

[Craig234]

Ben Stein is IMO a bit of an idiot ideologically, despite having some other skills.

Putting aside his having worked for Nixon and being a long time defender of the right, early this year he spoke on the economy.

He assured everyone with many reason given, why the economy *would not* crash much, was in very good shape, and was condescending and even mocking towards the people who believed otherwise, portraying them as simpletons basically. After he was proven so wrong, he shamelessly accepted a spot on the Dr. Phil show as one of a few experts on how people should deal with the financial crisis.

Listen for yourself to his speech early this year:

link

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Ben Stein is IMO a bit of an idiot ideologically, despite having some other skills.

Putting aside his having worked for Nixon and being a long time defender of the right, early this year he spoke on the economy.

He assured everyone with many reason given, why the economy *would not* crash much, was in very good shape, and was condescending and even mocking towards the people who believed otherwise, portraying them as simpletons basically. After he was proven so wrong, he shamelessly accepted a spot on the Dr. Phil show as one of a few experts on how people should deal with the financial crisis.

Listen for yourself to his speech early this year:

link

I could find links all over the place of probably anyone and everyone saying they did not expect the economy to crash like this either. Everyone was analyzing Palin's wardrobe instead of the economy. You can't single out Ben Stein for this as proof he's an idiot.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Craig234
Ben Stein is IMO a bit of an idiot ideologically, despite having some other skills.

Putting aside his having worked for Nixon and being a long time defender of the right, early this year he spoke on the economy.

He assured everyone with many reason given, why the economy *would not* crash much, was in very good shape, and was condescending and even mocking towards the people who believed otherwise, portraying them as simpletons basically. After he was proven so wrong, he shamelessly accepted a spot on the Dr. Phil show as one of a few experts on how people should deal with the financial crisis.

Listen for yourself to his speech early this year:

link

I could find links all over the place of probably anyone and everyone saying they did not expect the economy to crash like this either. Everyone was analyzing Palin's wardrobe instead of the economy. You can't single out Ben Stein for this as proof he's an idiot.

I didn't say this one thing makes him an ideological idiot. I mentioned this as an especially bad example of how wrong he is.

You are understating his error by complaining it's widespread. Go find me people who stuck their necks out like he did, gratuitously arguing that the economy was not facing any risks and giving a lit of reasons why this wouldn't happen, and the degree of contemptuousness he showed to the people who had concerns. Many people - most people - were surprised by this crash, but very few fit the description of his behavior - and then like any good shameless pundit he's on to the next prognistication saying the opposite.

 

[LongTimePCUser]

Originally posted by: DukeN
http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yourlife/127875

This has to be the most stupidest piece of drivel I have read in a long time. Bailout the big three because the Germans and the Japanese committed atrocities in WW2!

Also, Yahoo seems to be self-censoring every comment in there. Every comment seems to get removed, but its hilarious to read all the comments from people that gave it one or two stars (two is generous IMO).

Apparently you only read one minor paragraph in the article.
His primary argument is:
"First, we are on thin ice economically. To allow our largest heavy industrial component to fail at this delicate moment is suicidal. To put a couple of million more Americans into unemployment is just not sensible. "

Do you disagree with this argument?

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
What a damn fool. How is an Ivy League educated lawyer going to have the audacity to say professors only work 6 hours a week? What a complete asshat. This article is nothing but pandering to the working class, as though a pat on the back from a washed-up actor is the best these guys can hope for. Disgusting.

No kidding. My supervisor/prof sits in front of the dil fridge at 3:30 am on his birthday working...