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ZzZGuy

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I wouldn't mind a few extra provinces added to Canada as long as we stay clear of the bible belt, but I would find it more believable that if the USA brakes up one faction will invade parts of Canada. American pride will not allow any of them to become "part of Canada".

The closest thing to former USA states joining Canada is a merger with a faction forming a new country. I wouldn't want Canada to join another country under their rules if they had a inferior military and economy. Any states that couldn't stand on their own would join one of the factions over Canada even if they get a worse deal. California would just become their own country.

I doubt the USA will brake up any time soon but it will some day, makes me think of "Dust in the Wind" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4767DgTkS0
 

Modelworks

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All civilizations and governments will fail and change, that is a fact , so eventually he could be right. I can't see it happening soon like he suggest, but in the next 100+ years , who knows.
Russia as a financial regulator ? LOL......LOL... sorry couldn't stop. I can see the USA becoming more socialist as people look to the government for support and answers, demanding that the government play more a role of helping them solve their troubles. Nasty cycle there. People demand more help, the government doesn't want to upset its people so it helps, which reinforces the idea that people should go to the government when they need help.

I think government needs to take a hard stance on the whole thing. Yes it will hurt when business go under and people lose jobs. But it will put forth the message that you have to do it yourself, you have to be responsible for your future. You cannot depend on government to bail you out.

I mentioned it before that Rome failed the same way we are starting to fail . I hope we can learn a lesson from their screw ups.
 

Duwelon

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Originally posted by: ZzZGuy
I wouldn't mind a few extra provinces added to Canada as long as we stay clear of the bible belt, but I would find it more believable that if the USA brakes up one faction will invade parts of Canada. American pride will not allow any of them to become "part of Canada".

The closest thing to former USA states joining Canada is a merger with a faction forming a new country. I wouldn't want Canada to join another country under their rules if they had a inferior military and economy. Any states that couldn't stand on their own would join one of the factions over Canada even if they get a worse deal. California would just become their own country.

I doubt the USA will brake up any time soon but it will some day, makes me think of "Dust in the Wind" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4767DgTkS0

I don't see Canada getting any larger if the US broke up. As far as I can tell Canada has little national pride of their own. As far as im concerned the greatest accomplishment Canada has is the largest unprotected border in the world, between itself and the US, a result of simply not being evil bastards.
 

Eeezee

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People have been predicting the collapse of the US for over 200 years. Take a step back and look at our situation. We're better off now than we were during numerous points in our history.

This guy is full of shit.
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: K1052
That guy is obviously under the delusion that all nations are assembled like Russia and will suffer the same fate.

With oil on it's way to $40 a barrel and their stock market reeling I don't think Russia is going to be taking charge of jack shit.

What the hell you talking about . Russia is intact. Russia has natural resources up the butt. Read history. Russia has been a very good country threw time as compared to England france germany usa. Russia India China all been pretty good threw history. Compared to the westerners . USA is the worse over the last 59 years by far . bar none.

Its a toss up between the Britts and Spanish for whos was the worst in history. But I think maybe the Britts have raped the world more than any other nation in history. So the Britts were the best at 1 thing anyway . Not very comforting. If I could make one wish that could come true. It would be that any man who wishes to extend authority over another were all dead . and completely forgotten . wiped from history for the wickedness of their ways. Anyone know were the Gold minds are located in england. Or is that stolen GOLD. Same with Spain . That theirs or was it stolen? Govenrment is another name for legality of upper crust criminals. Who all went to jail on the Enron fraud. 60 billion dollars stolen.

I watch the news and I watch the penilties impossed on differant people for the same crime . Blacks get shafted big time. The Indians all native AMERICAN North or south. are next. Than poor whites. Than unpopular whites . Finely very few rich go to jail for the same crime as say a black american. Fact is I know 3 women ans 1 man all white the stole $25000 or more. Not one was every in a court of law. You want there names . I will name them publicly right here and now if you so wish. So don't tell me America is a country of law. Law only applies to the poor and middle class. If you have friends were needed . You can break the law. Thats what America is about. Protecting the Rich from the rest. To bad its going to go real bad for the rich very soon. I won't raise a hand towards anyone no matter what they do . Its not my place to judge. But I can turn my back to them fast.

How is babby formed?
 

badnewcastle

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Originally posted by: sammyunltd
Originally posted by: badnewcastle
The US always changes that's part of what makes the US. I don't see it breaking up, but I could see politics restructuring and maybe we can get away from being right and left. Russia will always be spreading stuff like this as they are pissed that we are who we are and that they lost the cold war.

True, but Russia's on the rise now (BRIC), while the USA and their market economy/free-market capitalism are falling down with them. The death of Investment Banks is the first step. The Venezuela-Russia missile pact is the second step. Deficits piling up, debt increasing, people to bail out, unemployment increasing, etc... the USA is in bad shape, socially (no regulation regarding personal weapons, high crime rates, high poverty rate, high illiteracy rates, etc.) and economically, Russia is rising from its own ashes, driven by its natural resources and will force the Europeans to support them since they provide Europeans with cheap oil/natural gas. They have the EU in their pocket.

They are doing better or were doing better with their own version of a free market but this crash of financial's hurt them and most other countries more then it hurt the USA. The thing is we risen from bad times like this before most recently in the 1980's when most of the economic news was worse then it is now such as unemployment, inflation, etc... we get back into it.

We were in a bubble and it needed to pop.
 

Nemesis 1

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Originally posted by: JohnnyGage
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: K1052
That guy is obviously under the delusion that all nations are assembled like Russia and will suffer the same fate.

With oil on it's way to $40 a barrel and their stock market reeling I don't think Russia is going to be taking charge of jack shit.

What the hell you talking about . Russia is intact. Russia has natural resources up the butt. Read history. Russia has been a very good country threw time as compared to England france germany usa. Russia India China all been pretty good threw history. Compared to the westerners . USA is the worse over the last 59 years by far . bar none.

Its a toss up between the Britts and Spanish for whos was the worst in history. But I think maybe the Britts have raped the world more than any other nation in history. So the Britts were the best at 1 thing anyway . Not very comforting. If I could make one wish that could come true. It would be that any man who wishes to extend authority over another were all dead . and completely forgotten . wiped from history for the wickedness of their ways. Anyone know were the Gold minds are located in england. Or is that stolen GOLD. Same with Spain . That theirs or was it stolen? Govenrment is another name for legality of upper crust criminals. Who all went to jail on the Enron fraud. 60 billion dollars stolen.

I watch the news and I watch the penilties impossed on differant people for the same crime . Blacks get shafted big time. The Indians all native AMERICAN North or south. are next. Than poor whites. Than unpopular whites . Finely very few rich go to jail for the same crime as say a black american. Fact is I know 3 women ans 1 man all white the stole $25000 or more. Not one was every in a court of law. You want there names . I will name them publicly right here and now if you so wish. So don't tell me America is a country of law. Law only applies to the poor and middle class. If you have friends were needed . You can break the law. Thats what America is about. Protecting the Rich from the rest. To bad its going to go real bad for the rich very soon. I won't raise a hand towards anyone no matter what they do . Its not my place to judge. But I can turn my back to them fast.


Mr. Nemesis1, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.



Well . The only thing I agree with is . May God have mercy on my Spirit MY soul is about dead(FLESH)

So may god have mercy on your flesh . As the spirit is not in you at all or you would have used the correct words.

 

ZzZGuy

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Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: JohnnyGage
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: K1052
That guy is obviously under the delusion that all nations are assembled like Russia and will suffer the same fate.

With oil on it's way to $40 a barrel and their stock market reeling I don't think Russia is going to be taking charge of jack shit.

What the hell you talking about . Russia is intact. Russia has natural resources up the butt. Read history. Russia has been a very good country threw time as compared to England france germany usa. Russia India China all been pretty good threw history. Compared to the westerners . USA is the worse over the last 59 years by far . bar none.

Its a toss up between the Britts and Spanish for whos was the worst in history. But I think maybe the Britts have raped the world more than any other nation in history. So the Britts were the best at 1 thing anyway . Not very comforting. If I could make one wish that could come true. It would be that any man who wishes to extend authority over another were all dead . and completely forgotten . wiped from history for the wickedness of their ways. Anyone know were the Gold minds are located in england. Or is that stolen GOLD. Same with Spain . That theirs or was it stolen? Govenrment is another name for legality of upper crust criminals. Who all went to jail on the Enron fraud. 60 billion dollars stolen.

I watch the news and I watch the penilties impossed on differant people for the same crime . Blacks get shafted big time. The Indians all native AMERICAN North or south. are next. Than poor whites. Than unpopular whites . Finely very few rich go to jail for the same crime as say a black american. Fact is I know 3 women ans 1 man all white the stole $25000 or more. Not one was every in a court of law. You want there names . I will name them publicly right here and now if you so wish. So don't tell me America is a country of law. Law only applies to the poor and middle class. If you have friends were needed . You can break the law. Thats what America is about. Protecting the Rich from the rest. To bad its going to go real bad for the rich very soon. I won't raise a hand towards anyone no matter what they do . Its not my place to judge. But I can turn my back to them fast.


Mr. Nemesis1, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.



Well . The only thing I agree with is . May God have mercy on my Spitit. MY soul is about dead(FLESH)

So may god have mercy on your flesh . As the spirit is not in you at all or you would have used the correct words.

I have to agree with what JohnnyGage said.

 

Nemesis 1

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I would hope that most americans would agree with ya. It would be a sad day if everyone gave up hope for our way of life. AS I have. I quit this country when murder became legal. and Wrong became right. If the WORLD is going to go forward . GOD must be killed. Along with people such as myself. We cause to many problems for the world . I can see that. Sad part is thats exactly what religion teaches. US against the rest. Were not many. But to many innocents will die as a result.

Its just to complicated. To have rational discussion on . I believe this you believe that. The problem is this. WE don't give a rats ass what you believe or think . But you humanist care what we believe and think why is that?


For practical or theoretical reasons, dictators, Organization Men and certain scientists are anxious to reduce the maddening diversity of men's natures to some kind of manageable uniformity. In the first flush of his Behaviouristic fervour, J.B. Watson roundly declared that he could find "no support for hereditary patterns of behaviour, nor for special abilities (music, art, etc.) which are supposed to run in families." And even today we find a distinguished psychologist, Professor B.F. Skinner of Harvard, insisting that, "as scientific explanation becomes more and more comprehensive, the contribution which may be claimed by the individual himself appears to approach zero. Man's vaunted creative powers, his achievements in art, science and morals, his capacity to choose and our right to hold him responsible for the consequences of his choice - none of these is conspicuous in the new scientific self-portrait."
 
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Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: ZzZGuy
I wouldn't mind a few extra provinces added to Canada as long as we stay clear of the bible belt, but I would find it more believable that if the USA brakes up one faction will invade parts of Canada. American pride will not allow any of them to become "part of Canada".

The closest thing to former USA states joining Canada is a merger with a faction forming a new country. I wouldn't want Canada to join another country under their rules if they had a inferior military and economy. Any states that couldn't stand on their own would join one of the factions over Canada even if they get a worse deal. California would just become their own country.

I doubt the USA will brake up any time soon but it will some day, makes me think of "Dust in the Wind" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4767DgTkS0

I don't see Canada getting any larger if the US broke up. As far as I can tell Canada has little national pride of their own. As far as im concerned the greatest accomplishment Canada has is the largest unprotected border in the world, between itself and the US, a result of simply not being evil bastards.

Canadians have tons of pride, but it's a strange type of national pride. It's a pride that's really dependent upon the US. It's very odd.

I think that if the US broke apart, a state like Maine or North Dakota would invade Canada and conquer it and take over its territory. Maybe let Quebec become its own nation.
 

Glayde

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It's pretty obvious that Texas is going to secede due to the recent BCS standings.
 

DrewSG3

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Russia themselves is going to be fucked soon once we start moving away from fossil fuels
 

Nemesis 1

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Originally posted by: DrewSG3
Russia themselves is going to be fucked soon once we start moving away from fossil fuels

How exactly do you figure. Global warming is real. Sea water is rising faster than expected. That means Coastal fertile Land will be underwater. Russia is basicly land locked.
USA is far from landlocked.

Befor you thro a tinfoil hat on myself . Watch Obamas speech . Him and Hillary agree with me.

Food is going to be the problem . NOT oil.