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Stoneburner

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UPDATED

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17560718/


?Is anything ever going to happen to that guy?? Weh said he asked Rove at a White House holiday event.

?He?s gone,? Rove said, according to Weh


I just saw good old FUNDIE On MSNBC claiming there was no link to the whitehouse. Watch the republicans continue to claim there is no link just like they continue to claim joe wilson has no credibility.












http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/3/11424/77159


Yeah, it's daily kos but they highlight other sources. So basically it looks like the administration (yes them directly) fired prosecutors who A) prosecuted republicans B) did not prosecute democrats that republicans asked to be prosecuted.

When the bush presidency is over even a large number of conservatives will admit it was among the worst in history. The harding to hoover era was full of some equivalent incompetence but to so blatantly undermine the rule of law damages the credibility of the entire nation.

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JEDIYoda

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Thanks, Scoop.

Man... I can't wail till Jan of '09
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so which Republican will be the next president in 2008?
 
judasmachine

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Thanks, Scoop.

Man... I can't wail till Jan of '09
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so which Republican will be the next president in 2008?
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If they be Republican, I hope they're at least compentent and observant of the rule of law. This admin is out of control.
 
Thump553

Thump553

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NPR had a feature on this last week. Congress has subpeoned a half dozen of these prosecutors (all fired for alleged performance issues) to testify Tuesday. One of the former prosecutors featured in the episode was a Bush appointee. Previously he had excellent performance ratings. His attendance was marginal, but that was because he is also in the Naval reserves. In mid-October he received telephone calls from two different members of Congress inquiring as to whether he was going to issue an indictment against a prominent Democratic candidate and pushing to have it issued before the election. The prosecutor refused to discuss the status of unissued indictments (as well he should) and was canned in December. So far he has refused to identify the callers for fear of retribution but said he will disclose that information under subpeona if he is required to do so.

This is a horrible situation that makes Clinton's "travelgate" look like the minor episode it was. Political influence in our justice system is, to me, the rankest form of corruption and should be squashed hard unless the USA wants to become a banana republic.
 
XMan

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Trivia question: how many US attorneys did Bill Clinton fire, and when did he fire them?

Under the same circumstances, how many US attorneys did George Bush fire?

Also, just because attorneys are fired, does not mean their cases are ended. Any corruption cases against Republican officials will continue.
 
Red Dawn

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: XMan
Trivia question: how many US attorneys did Bill Clinton fire, and when did he fire them?
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I don't know but I wished they could have sh!tcanned Kenneth Lay, what waste of money and resources.
 
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Originally posted by: XMan
Trivia question: how many US attorneys did Bill Clinton fire, and when did he fire them?

Under the same circumstances, how many US attorneys did George Bush fire?

Also, just because attorneys are fired, does not mean their cases are ended. Any corruption cases against Republican officials will continue.
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So Clinton is the yardstick against which presidents are measured? I guess he was pretty good, then.
 
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Jhhnn

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Also, just because attorneys are fired, does not mean their cases are ended. Any corruption cases against Republican officials will continue.
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That's not true, at all. US Attorneys have a great deal of discretion as to what cases to pursue, and to what degree. While Clinton fired all the US Attorneys save one after his inauguration in 1993, that was his perogative, and wasn't a pick and choose deal used to get the DoJ off his cronies' backs... many were reappointed, and the vast majority gained Senate confirmation, iirc...

The whole affair is an artifact of the attitude on the far right, those who currently run the Admin. From their perspective, everything is political, and within that context, anybody who's on the team basically has immunity, or should. They really are a very small and totally partisan minority, as can be seen by the utter lack of competence of many of their appointees...

They're exercising damage control at every possible level, this being only one. The whole Abramoff/ Scanlon investigation has slowed to a crawl, as well... they'll probably end up pardoned or mysteriously dead before the next presidential inauguration...
 
Thump553

Thump553

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Originally posted by: XMan
Trivia question: how many US attorneys did Bill Clinton fire, and when did he fire them?

Under the same circumstances, how many US attorneys did George Bush fire?

Also, just because attorneys are fired, does not mean their cases are ended. Any corruption cases against Republican officials will continue.
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If you really want to compare to Clinton's record, do your own research-don't be so lazy as to rely upon others to dig up the research to support your brainstorms.

And who said anything about a corruption case against a Republican official? The instance I cited was a GOP/Bush appointee who was fired, apparently for not indicting a Democratic candidate on the eve of the election. Unless there is some other incident I'm not aware of, your reading comprehension is sorely lacking.
 
dahunan

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Originally posted by: Stoneburner
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17453555/


First he denied making the call at all now this...

And XMAN, while the case may or may not continue wouldn't other prosecutors not get the message that indicting republicans puts your career in jeopardy? That was a very silly response.
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Why can't politicians just run on their own merits instead of only trying to find fault with the other guy? :(
 
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piasabird

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Well if the attorney was refusing to uphold the law maybe they deserved to be fired. If they were told to do something and had a problem, then they should have resigned.
 
trenchfoot

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following the apparent logic being applied to this and many other instances where the administration has acted in kind, the only way our government can work the way it should is if every single civil servant now in government service be a card carrying, banner waving neocon zealot in cheney's image.
 
thraashman

thraashman

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Originally posted by: piasabird
Well if the attorney was refusing to uphold the law maybe they deserved to be fired. If they were told to do something and had a problem, then they should have resigned.
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From reading some of the articles, there was an investigation about corruption and the attorney was asked to rush the indictment so that it came in before the November elections. And one of the congressman who called initially claimed "I have no idea what he's talking about" in reference to calling the US attorney, then later admitted calling him. Generally members of congress are not supposed to discuss ongoing investigations with US attorneys and that may be an ethics violation. It would have been unethical of the US attorney to rush an indictment before the investigation was over simply due to political pressure. This admin is highly corrupt and keeps proving it.
 
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johnnobts

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you realize clinton fired all the u.s. attorneys when he came into office? they serve at the pleasure of the president. he can dismiss them at any time as he sees fit.
 
Siddhartha

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I have only read four posts in this thread. I am sure someone will write something like "Clinton did this too" or "They all do this".

I asked everyone who feel they have to defend GWB, to please ask yourself "is this the way I want my government ran?".

Personally, I do not want the Justice Department to be used to persecute the White House's political enemies.
This is a lesson that should have been learned 35 years after Watergate.
 
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