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maluckey

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Christian Science Monitor:

Spain: Bombers financed with drug sales

Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 11:28am EDT

The terrorists behind the Madrid train bombings financed much of their operation with sales of hashish and Ecstasy, even bartering drugs for the explosives they used in the blasts, Spain's interior minister said Wednesday.
The bombers also used money from drug sales to rent an apartment and buy a car and cell phones used as detonators in the March 11 attacks that killed 191 people and wounded more than 1,800, Interior Minister Angel Acebes told a news conference.

Acebes said the cell that staged the attacks "was local and autonomous, but its leaders have connections with other fundamentalist groups." He said investigators are pursuing leads in Britain, Germany, France, Belgium, Tunisia, and Morocco.

Acebes repeated that the core of the cell believed responsible for the bombings had been broken with a wave of arrests and the deaths of seven suspects who blew themselves up April 3 as police moved in to arrest them. But he would not rule out more attacks.


 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

How exactly would that stop them from funding illegal activities.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

How exactly would that stop them from funding illegal activities.

Well for one thing, they wouldn't be able to make a buck off 'harmful' drugs.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

How exactly would that stop them from funding illegal activities.
Why would people buy them from criminals and terrorists when the can get them legally?
 

InfectedMushroom

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

How exactly would that stop them from funding illegal activities.

It would drop the profit margins soo much that it would not be worth it for them to finance themselves that way. They might as well buy and sell cars at that point.
 
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Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

It cuts both ways; if the black market didn't exist then the terrorists wouldn't be filling orders in it.

The black market exists both because it's illegal, and because people demand drugs.

The best way would be to reduce drug-usage while removing the complete illegality.
 

Bitek

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

It cuts both ways; if the black market didn't exist then the terrorists wouldn't be filling orders in it.

The black market exists both because it's illegal, and because people demand drugs.

The best way would be to reduce drug-usage while removing the complete illegality.


Yes, its not that different if you made cigs illegal or the problems with alcohol enriching the mafia during prohibition. The irony is that you may make them less available to kids. As I recall, drugs were just as common and prob easier to get than alcohol in Hs/college. (At least in college you prob has friends that could buy, but you would have to rely on them, whereas dealers don't ask for ID.) Safety would be vastly improved at the very least w/ FDA regulation.

OTH, do we want a bunch (more) idiots running around high on x?

 

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
car insurance would skyrocket 5000%

Please explain your statement. Why would car insurance skyrocket 5000% if the same laws as driving under the influence of alcohol would more then likely also apply with legalized drug use ? What would change to make car insurance companies to raise rates ? That is unless you are caught driving under the influence of any drug, legal or illegal.

 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

How exactly would that stop them from funding illegal activities.

As others have mentioned the fact that they are illegal and that their is a huge demand is the reason why they would be better off legal. Last I heard drug sales were not the only way terrorist or other nefarious groups could make money.
 

Mean MrMustard

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

How exactly would that stop them from funding illegal activities.

Let's make no mistake. Oil profits have NEVER funded terrorists.

/sarcasm
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

Yes, that must be the only alternative. Make them legal. Heck, why not make murder legal right away too? Then it would put a stop to the hired hitman groups. Imagine what a great world it would be if nothing were illegal...


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Originally posted by: maluckey
Christian Science Monitor: Spain: Bombers financed with drug sales Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 11:28am EDT The terrorists behind the Madrid train bombings financed much of their operation with sales of hashish and Ecstasy, even bartering drugs for the explosives they used in the blasts, Spain's interior minister said Wednesday. The bombers also used money from drug sales to rent an apartment and buy a car and cell phones used as detonators in the March 11 attacks that killed 191 people and wounded more than 1,800, Interior Minister Angel Acebes told a news conference. Acebes said the cell that staged the attacks "was local and autonomous, but its leaders have connections with other fundamentalist groups." He said investigators are pursuing leads in Britain, Germany, France, Belgium, Tunisia, and Morocco. Acebes repeated that the core of the cell believed responsible for the bombings had been broken with a wave of arrests and the deaths of seven suspects who blew themselves up April 3 as police moved in to arrest them. But he would not rule out more attacks.

Illegal drugs for illegal weapons? Who do they think they are, Ollie North?!?
 

Mean MrMustard

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

Yes, that must be the only alternative. Make them legal. Heck, why not make murder legal right away too? Then it would put a stop to the hired hitman groups. Imagine what a great world it would be if nothing were illegal...


rolleye.gif

Okay, why don't we make oil illegal?

That would make the Middle East pretty much economically worthless. They wouldn't have much of a stake in any world organization. We wouldn't have to depend on an unstable region of the world, well unless we decide to make some serious investments in sand.

With the drugs (mention: hashish, Ectasy) being illegal, that drives up costs which in turn drives up profit, making the risk more worth it.

What part of this concept is confusing?
 

dnuggett

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Originally posted by: ELP
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

Yes, that must be the only alternative. Make them legal. Heck, why not make murder legal right away too? Then it would put a stop to the hired hitman groups. Imagine what a great world it would be if nothing were illegal...


rolleye.gif

Okay, why don't we make oil illegal?

That would make the Middle East pretty much economically worthless. They wouldn't have much of a stake in any world organization. We wouldn't have to depend on an unstable region of the world, well unless we decide to make some serious investments in sand.
What part of this concept is confusing?


The part that is confusing is suggesting oil should be illegal. That stops all travel and manufacturing, basically the economy of the world goes to crap. You can't be serious...



 

gistech1978

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Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: ELP
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

Yes, that must be the only alternative. Make them legal. Heck, why not make murder legal right away too? Then it would put a stop to the hired hitman groups. Imagine what a great world it would be if nothing were illegal...


rolleye.gif

Okay, why don't we make oil illegal?

That would make the Middle East pretty much economically worthless. They wouldn't have much of a stake in any world organization. We wouldn't have to depend on an unstable region of the world, well unless we decide to make some serious investments in sand.
What part of this concept is confusing?


The part that is confusing is suggesting oil should be illegal. That stops all travel and manufacturing, basically the economy of the world goes to crap. You can't be serious...

it was obviously the same type of knee jerk reaction that XZeroII had recommended.
except ELP has made a point in this thread, whereas XZeroII is just being reactionary, without any point.
 

ReiAyanami

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Chris Farley, River Phoenix, and John Belushi all assure you that illicit drugs are 100% safe.


once you're addicted, often the only way out is death.
 

Spencer278

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
Chris Farley, River Phoenix, and John Belushi all assure you that illicit drugs are 100% safe.


once you're addicted, often the only way out is death.


Good thing there illegal that way no uses the drugs.
 

Mean MrMustard

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Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: ELP
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Phokus
So? Make them legal and stop financing terrorists, you fascist.

Yes, that must be the only alternative. Make them legal. Heck, why not make murder legal right away too? Then it would put a stop to the hired hitman groups. Imagine what a great world it would be if nothing were illegal...


rolleye.gif

Okay, why don't we make oil illegal?

That would make the Middle East pretty much economically worthless. They wouldn't have much of a stake in any world organization. We wouldn't have to depend on an unstable region of the world, well unless we decide to make some serious investments in sand.
What part of this concept is confusing?


The part that is confusing is suggesting oil should be illegal. That stops all travel and manufacturing, basically the economy of the world goes to crap. You can't be serious...

The point was...

How much terrorism is funded by oil money? Hashish, ectasy?

Oil money dwarfs the amount funded from hashish or ectasy. Yet, oil is perfectly legal. You and me are funding it as we speak.

Legalizing these drugs (especially, hashish (form of Marijuana) would bring the "industry" if you will, to the forefront.

Imagine, fully legal businesses producing marijuana for consumption. Here you would have a clean product (i.e. no fear of being laced with something), and legal consumers willing to buy. Of course it would be regulated like tobacco and alcohol.

I focused on marijuana because it is by far the most used illicit drug consumed, at least here in America.
 

BlitzCraig64

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I believe that terrorism is funded by illicit drugs to a point, but there is more oil available in the middle east than mj. Making drugs legal wouldn't stop them....they would just turn to something else for finance......rich middle eastern oil sheiks like to be philathropists if the cause is allah.....and worldwide domination. We have wasted enough money on the "war on drugs." We are on the losing end of that one. Gov't might make a little money if they would regulate and tax marijuana sales.