Question More anti-AMD "Stealth Marketing" by UserBenchmark...

[VirtualLarry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/gk4kzv

Basically, a blog post by "CPUPro", I guess, on UserBenchmark, talking about the new 3300X CPU, and basically dissing it, and saying that AMD is now effectively walking back their "moar coars" marketing, and now saying that "only quad-core is enough", and then claiming that the (as of yet unreleased, nor professionally-benchmarked) Intel 10th-Gen quad-core i3 CPU is going to blow it away.

It's just all kinds of screwed up, with UserBenchmark (apparently) sucking up to Intel and quad-cores, and dissing AMD. What else is new, I guess.

 

[moinmoin]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[IEC]

You need to present commentary with a link.

 

[VirtualLarry]

You need to present commentary with a link.

Sorry, thought commentary in title counted.

 

[DrMrLordX]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

At least you didn't paste a lenny face.

Sorry, thought commentary in title counted.

Sadly no.

Looks like Userbenchmark has a bone to pick with AMD. Did Lisa Su run over their dog or something?

 

[moinmoin]

At least you didn't paste a lenny face.

( ✧≖ ͜ʖ≖)

 

[Hans Gruber]

When Zen3 comes out in a few months. Hopefully that will put an end to all of this.

 

[inf64]

UserBenchmark has really turned into a pathetic excuse for a benchmark software. That sort of a text looks like it came out of intel's PR office...

 

[chrisjames61]

How does UserBenchmark reconcile a piece like that with the incredibly positive reviews by trusted sources that the 3100 and 3300 have gotten? Or the fact Intel is still selling 4 core cpu's?

 

[linaaslt]

Wonder who at this time and age can take that site seriously. Now we've git so many sites, youtubers reviewing hardware, that site like that is using it's purpose. Shame, they're still allowed to spread nonsense like that. They should get banned from www.

 

[deathBOB]

So don't go there.

 

[Gideon]

It's not only that. I Checked the site on review day, and there was no mention of 3300x. Before they added it, they redesigned their scoring system again.


Now on top of discarding MT scores, memory latency is a major part of the overall score. Gee I wonder why ...

 

[lixlax]

It's not only that. I Checked the site on review day, and there was no mention of 3300x. Before they added it, they redesigned their scoring system again.


Now on top of discarding MT scores, memory latency is a major part of the overall score. Gee I wonder why ...

I wouldn't be suprised if by Zen 3 launch their tests are mostly AVX512 or something like that.

 

[Shivansps]

It's not only that. I Checked the site on review day, and there was no mention of 3300x. Before they added it, they redesigned their scoring system again.


Now on top of discarding MT scores, memory latency is a major part of the overall score. Gee I wonder why ...

I cant belive there is even a point in doing that, in a sea of benchmarking software, you change your score system to benefict Intel? thats fanboy level BS right there. It just make your benchmark look bad.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I cant belive there is even a point in doing that, in a sea of benchmarking software, you change your score system to benefict Intel? thats fanboy level BS right there. It just make your benchmark look bad.

Money talks.

 

[moinmoin]

Some Reddit subs are banning links to it or link to an explanation of their antics instead. I think we should start doing the same, pure waste of valuable time and internet space.

 

[coercitiv]

I agree with @moinmoin , it is time to put Userbenchmark out of it's misery and forget it even exists.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Ryan Shrout is most definitely not involved in this.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Some Reddit subs are banning links to it or link to an explanation of their antics instead. I think we should start doing the same, pure waste of valuable time and internet space.

I dunno, we've had WCCFTech links in here before and we didn't ban those. They're not anywhere near as bad, but some people wanted that.

I think it's important to put stuff like Userbenchmark in context, though. It's a stealth-sponsored review source.

 

[moinmoin]

I dunno, we've had WCCFTech links in here before and we didn't ban those. They're not anywhere near as bad, but some people wanted that.

I think it's important to put stuff like Userbenchmark in context, though. It's a stealth-sponsored review source.

I wouldn't compare them. WCCFTech is a mixed bag with a questionable track record that sometimes appears to do adequate reporting. Userbenchmark is a statistics site that makes recommendations based on its statistics, but which doesn't stand by its algorithms, instead repeatedly intransparently tweaking them to fit its now obvious agenda. To me the latter is completely worthless, and the way it keeps twisting a seemingly scientific approach is dangerous.

 

[UsandThem]

It's really a shame.

Their site used to be really handy when someone wanted to quickly compared various CPUs without having to go between various reviews. I used to use it all the time.

However, once they obviously skewed their CPU results/rankings, along with the "aircraft carrier", "battleship", "nuclear submarine", etc. naming bull crap, I now never go to their site for anything.

 

[maddie]

Really pisses me off that as soon as organizations achieves some level of trust, so many are subverted by the dark side. Applies to almost everything in the world today.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I wouldn't compare them. WCCFTech is a mixed bag with a questionable track record that sometimes appears to do adequate reporting. Userbenchmark is a statistics site that makes recommendations based on its statistics, but which doesn't stand by its algorithms, instead repeatedly intransparently tweaking them to fit its now obvious agenda. To me the latter is completely worthless, and the way it keeps twisting a seemingly scientific approach is dangerous.

It used to be that WCCFTech links were the worst thing you could post around here. It's gotten worse, I admit. I will still consider believing something WCCFTech runs as a leak story, some of the time. Userbenchmark is now 100% cringe.

 

[chrisjames61]

Really pisses me off that as soon as organizations achieves some level of trust, so many are subverted by the dark side. Applies to almost everything in the world today.

I hear you. It is really, really hard to discern the truth from fiction in our world today. Th internet and social media in particular are rotting away the society in which we live.

 

[therealmongo]

The biggest issue IMHO is because of how people search the webs (most average users use Google) and how this websites is almost every time in first place on results returned by Google when searching for most types of hardware, hence your average person is going to be getting misleading information with regards to CPU performance.

If there is any way that something is going to change it will only be by users becoming complicit in a class action law suit againt the website (that they bought the 'wrong' CPU based on the rankings from this website) which in turn could force Google to change their algorithms with regards to how high the website appears in search rankings.