Originally posted by: Idontcare
Nemesis I can see you are quite paranoid about having your designs duplicated (and rightfully so IMO).
Sounds like you have applied for a patent in the US, which is the only country to employ the "first to invent" philosophy when it comes to designating the owner of IP regardless of patent application date.
The rest of the world uses a "first to file" philosophy when it comes to designating the owner of IP.
Just be aware that if, for example, you do not file for a patent in Japan or Taiwan and someone reverse engineers your designs and subsequently files for patents in those countries before you do then they will be legally awarded the patents for production and sales of your designs in those countries.
Your patent in the US will of course preclude them from manufacturing or selling your designs in the US market, assuming you have the funding to lawyer-up and pursue patent enforcement against all infringers.
And as you are aware, having a patent means pretty much nothing unless you have the money to pursue enforcement of that patent. But even then if your design really is revolutionary and superior to the current state-of-art then you know it will be reverse engineered and replicated/duplicated by the thousands once the designs hit the PRC. No amount of patent enforcement will save you or anyone from plain thievery.
And of course all the big-guys in the case world will acquire your systems thru legal means to see just how much they can legally replicate your IP.
So be paranoid, but be realistic, you are merely delaying the inevitable. Once this comes to pass all you have is your reputation and brand recognition. So build your brand recognition strong from the beginning. Anyone can illegally make tennis shoes that are identical to Nike but only Nike convinces people to pay >$100 for the swoosh insignia on the sides.
Your part of the reason I like AnandT. So much . Main reason being their reviews. The only reason I filed for patent was to see if I could get one . Try filing for heatsink design . Everthing was designed along time ago, Ya need to look at forced air heat sink design in a closed block . Or heatsink design for hydralics. Very revealing stuff,
Ya I am aware butt not worried about ripoffs after the fact. We designed the case out of best materials . FOR long long use. Quality is what were about . Any one can rip us off . But to match quality that would be terriably expensive . Our target is people with more $$ than brains. Or people who just plan want the best of the best . That all we offer.
We could sell high volumn cheap crap. Henry Ford once said I would rather sell a million cars @ $1 profit than 1 car with a millionn dollar profit. I am going just the other way. I love Henrys thinking but its not the model we well use.
I could cut cost big time . But than quality goes out the window and what were left with is a nice loking cheap case. My pc comes stock at 4.2 ghz using 965 . Than only part I want to stress is the cpu . All hardware is retail . Buyer gets retail benies on all parts except O/C parts . Dar covers that . If the seal on case is broken warranty is canceled.
The filters we use are not cheap . Think in $100s Ya we can be ripped off but quality match gives Dar edge as we only profit off the case NO hardware profit zero nada. To match quality they would have to produce high volumn cases . In a low volumn market . We see a max potential of maybe and its a hugh maybe of 50 units a year.
Now if ya like go to XS forum read there water section . Some of the so called gurus are kids learning the Math. YO do not need to publish math numbers its useless for the users because of the systems used in a PC. The math is for part design . Than some of the things stated by some of these guys is just retarded. You can only do what the parts are designed to do . Hi flow vs. low flo Makes me want to rip hair out of head. The guys using the r30 pumps understand . Everthing changes with that part including the useless published BS math . What people use today in water cooling is a bunch of mis matched parts. A good example of pure BS is the TC rads. Everone is coping TC , Its not tc design at all . Google the TC160 single core . You will find that the core is from a late 20's core design . Even has pics if ya can find on google. We elected to install gauges so user can adjust and understand easily without the freaking math, Ya want to know pressure drop check the freaken gauges . God I hate stupidity.
When I started this project long time ago I went threw some learning curves that surprized me. As I wasn't exspecting some results we got . My biggest folly was our own rad . I was so proud of it . A rad designed to do the job it was meant for . I mean we went all out Fully polished out brass. It was really great looking . Outside the case it worked flawlessly . Inside the case it was a piece of shit. I could not get proper air flow threw case . It really depressed me. It cost us time and money.
So basicly is what my orginal plan was to just use parts designed to do the total job. And put it inside a dream case . I am aware its a tiny whinny market I have targeted.
One might ask why is airflow threw the case is important. I don't know what Dar well do when I am gone. So I allowed for air cooling . To cheapen the system up. Something I would never do.
I have stop now as I am not feeling very well. But thanks for your comments. Its a struggle but in the end all I want is for you guys to remember. Is this stupid guy who changed how we view water cooling on pc . Done right . That the only thing I am getting out of this . A little rememberance and pride.
Whoever is in office at the bad cycle gets a lot of the blame.
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