Moore: Go Ahead and Pirate Fahrenheit 9/11

[MonstaThrilla]

Sunday Herald

Controversial film-maker Michael Moore has welcomed the appearance on the internet of pirated copies of his anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 and claimed he is happy for anybody to download it free of charge.

The activist, author and director told the Sunday Herald that, as long as pirated copies of his film were not being sold, he had no problem with it being downloaded.

?I don?t agree with the copyright laws and I don?t have a problem with people downloading the movie and sharing it with people as long as they?re not trying to make a profit off my labour. I would oppose that,? he said.

?I do well enough already and I made this film because I want the world, to change. The more people who see it the better, so I?m happy this is happening.?

Moore?s views have not been well received by Hollywood?s establishment, which is fighting a war against the online pirates it claims cost the industry £1.6 billion a year in lost sales.

Jack Valenti, the outgoing president of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), said: ?We are proud that American films continue to enjoy immense popularity around the world but the need for copyright protection in the digital age is crucial to the preservation of our most prized trade asset.

?Piracy is having a dramatic impact on the creators and copyright owners of this nation, and its defeat depends largely on the commit ment and resolve of the entire industry.

?File sharing causes tremendous financial loss to the movie business, untold hardship to support workers, and costs thousands of jobs.?

Distributed via websites such as suprnova.org, which lays claim to having served more than 17 million downloads, Moore?s documentary critique of the Bush administration?s red, white and blue rush into war with Iraq is among the web?s hottest properties.

Thousands of copies of Fahrenheit 9/11 have already been downloaded, each taking about 3.5 hours over a broadband connection.

Ironically, the burgeoning underground market for Moore?s much-debated documentary has been championed by both sides of the political divide. While left-wing sites promote the film?s message, opponents of the high-profile polemicist are urging people to ?steal? their copy, thus denying its director his cut of the profits.

 

[tcsenter]

Moore haters all over the country become even more engraged

Umm, it appears you didn't read for completeness:

Ironically, the burgeoning underground market for Moore?s much-debated documentary has been championed by both sides of the political divide. While left-wing sites promote the film?s message, opponents of the high-profile polemicist are urging people to ?steal? their copy, thus denying its director his cut of the profits.

According to your source, "Moore haters" are in essence saying "Hey! We agree with Moore on something! Pirate and distribute this movie until your cable modem bursts into flames!"

Oh well, maybe reading isn't your forte.

 

[Ferocious]

Moore is pretty cool for doing that. :thumbsup:

(not that he could stop it anyways though)

 

[sMiLeYz]

Moore is just stirring up his controversy pot again, the new headlines will be "MIKE MOORE ENCOURAGES PIRACY".
More people will know about it and they would be curious enough to check it out for themselves.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Moore haters all over the country become even more engraged

Umm, it appears you didn't read for completeness:

Ironically, the burgeoning underground market for Moore?s much-debated documentary has been championed by both sides of the political divide. While left-wing sites promote the film?s message, opponents of the high-profile polemicist are urging people to ?steal? their copy, thus denying its director his cut of the profits.

According to your source, "Moore haters" are in essence saying "Hey! We agree with Moore on something! Pirate and distribute this movie until your cable modem bursts into flames!"

Oh well, maybe reading isn't your forte.

LOL. Actually, I was referring to those who thought they caught Moore in an instance of Bush-like hypocrisy and shadiness because he had made pro-piracy comments in the past, but was staying silent on this issue recently. Well, he came out and reiterated his position clear as day.

Obviously, reading into things that aren't there definitely is your forte!

 

[DealMonkey]

So much for that profit motive I keep hearing so much about . . .

 

[Gaard]

He should put his money where his mouth is.

 

[tcsenter]

LOL. Actually, I was referring to those who thought they caught Moore in an instance of Bush-like hypocrisy and shadiness because he had made pro-piracy comments in the past, but was staying silent on this issue recently. Well, he came out and reiterated his position clear as day.

Obviously, reading into things that aren't there definitely is your forte!

Ah, ok. Got it.

However, one wouldn't require reading skills to have "divined" that. A psychic friend, maybe.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

LOL. Actually, I was referring to those who thought they caught Moore in an instance of Bush-like hypocrisy and shadiness because he had made pro-piracy comments in the past, but was staying silent on this issue recently. Well, he came out and reiterated his position clear as day.

Obviously, reading into things that aren't there definitely is your forte!

Ah, ok. Got it.

However, one wouldn't require reading skills to have "divined" that. A psychic friend, maybe.

I knew what he meant.

Gaard closes his eyes and concentrates// And tcsenter is wearing a pink thong.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
LOL. Actually, I was referring to those who thought they caught Moore in an instance of Bush-like hypocrisy and shadiness because he had made pro-piracy comments in the past, but was staying silent on this issue recently. Well, he came out and reiterated his position clear as day.

you don't realize that the quotes from Moore are from a single interview quesion asked well over a year ago, eh?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
So much for that profit motive I keep hearing so much about . . .

The controversy will only increase sales. The one thing I've never called Moore is stupid.

 

[Caminetto]

Jack Valenti, the outgoing president of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA),

I remember in the 80"s when Valenti was complaing about VCRs with it's potential for piracy and "stealing art". He forcast gloom and doom for the motion picture industry, when in fact it was largely respossible for getting people interested in movies again and saving it.

 

[Bonesdad]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Moore haters all over the country become even more engraged

Umm, it appears you didn't read for completeness:

Ironically, the burgeoning underground market for Moore?s much-debated documentary has been championed by both sides of the political divide. While left-wing sites promote the film?s message, opponents of the high-profile polemicist are urging people to ?steal? their copy, thus denying its director his cut of the profits.

According to your source, "Moore haters" are in essence saying "Hey! We agree with Moore on something! Pirate and distribute this movie until your cable modem bursts into flames!"

Oh well, maybe reading isn't your forte.

You actually think Moore cares? What he cares about is people watching this film, then voting against Mr Bush. Go Michael Moore!!

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
LOL. Actually, I was referring to those who thought they caught Moore in an instance of Bush-like hypocrisy and shadiness because he had made pro-piracy comments in the past, but was staying silent on this issue recently. Well, he came out and reiterated his position clear as day.

you don't realize that the quotes from Moore are from a single interview quesion asked well over a year ago, eh?

I wasn't the one making a big hullabaloo about it...

 

[tcsenter]

You actually think Moore cares? What he cares about is people watching this film, then voting against Mr Bush. Go Michael Moore!!

Whether Moore cares or not is neither here nor there.

 

[DeeKnow]

whatever you say about his politics (and I for one have no problem with his), he's a master at marketing his product. the movie was going to end up on p2p networks anyway and there's nothing he or anyone else can do about it... by supporting it, he gains a much larger viewership and pisses off the establishment even more - without spending a penny actually... kewl!

 

[andrewjm]

The way i see it, there are generally two kinds of piracy..
1) downloading for yourself, watching on your tv/pc and enjoying the movie without paying for it
2) selling pirated movies as a living

michael more is still against #2... he said he feels its unfair for people to make money off of his work, however sharing with your friends or downloading for personal reasons hes all for... which is the way it should be

totally off the topic, but the riaa is pounding so hard on mp3 downloading, when like 10 years ago, no one cared when you recorded off the radio. why is it any different now? mp3's dont sound close to cd quality if you have amazing speakers. you can totally hear the difference. mp3s don't use lossless encoding, therefore it should be treated the same as fair use as recording off the radio with a tape recorder.

my 2 cents...

 

[kylebisme]

sure you are, along with whoever wrote the article; its all old news being dug up again by Moore critics.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Moore: Go Ahead and Pirate Fahrenheit 9/11

OK.
It's the only way i'll watch this anyway. I'm not spending my hard earned $ on his bile...but i'll download it...oh wait...I am already

CkG

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Sunday Herald

...Distributed via websites such as suprnova.org, which lays claim to having served more than 17 million downloads, ...

i HATE when someone mentions the place of download, especially if its something of a popular underground site. it ruins the deal for everybody! because the content that that site hosts is mostly illegal, it will probably be shut down.

just a quick note: i dont support online piracy, but i have gotten some hard to find linux torrents from there in the past.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Sunday Herald

...Distributed via websites such as suprnova.org, which lays claim to having served more than 17 million downloads, ...

i HATE when someone mentions the place of download, especially if its something of a popular underground site. it ruins the deal for everybody! because the content that that site hosts is mostly illegal, it will probably be shut down.

just a quick note: i dont support online piracy, but i have gotten some hard to find linux torrents from there in the past.

Alot of people know of warez sites, however supernova.org isn't really hosting any illegal material.

 

[Corn]

I wanted to watch Mike's anti-Bush propaganda film but didn't want Mooreon to profit from my $$. I'm not all that interested in downloading a camcordered version of a movie either. What to do, what to do?

I bought a ticket for the Chronicles of Riddick and watched F 9/11 instead.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
So much for that profit motive I keep hearing so much about . . .

Why didn't he just make it free to see in theaters?

The budget for the movie was only $6 million. Surely he could have funded it himself and just distributed it for free.

If you really think he doesn't care about profit, you are an idiot. He only said these things because it goes along with his image, creates controversy, keeps his name in the news, and ...guess what .... INCREASES INTEREST AND TICKET SALES.