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glutenberg

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Originally posted by: Tango
Nice, I've never been flamed before...

I don't claim you need to be a scholar in order to have an opinion. The legendary waiter never went to college. He's not using the weight of a prestigious degree. He's using his sensibility and knowledge. You are indeed correct on the inability of scholars to judge new waves and radical changes in arts. I fully agree. Academic knowledge ALONE doesn't do the trick.

I do dance tango (which I wouldn't even qualify as a dance) and had a studied some contemporary dance in my early 20s, untill my joints told me it was enough. :)

I think the Beatles were poor instrumentalists and geniuses at song-writing. They changed the music of th 20th century maybe more than anybody else.

Sorry, I didn't mean for my post to come off as a flame. I just find it odd when someone tells me that one particular artist transcends all artist of a superficially similar field. Each time transcending artist has brought something new and undeveloped to the table, something that the previous generation might've left undeveloped.

I would say the Beatles weren't necessarily the best at playing their instruments but some of the key shifts and harmonic shifts that they created had not been previously explored. It just adds to their genius.

On a side note, I do enjoy "classical" dancing quite a bit and although not necessarily the "best" dancer, Gene Kelly has always impressed me. Shame you quit dancing.

So, back on topic, the moonwalk is stunning.
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: Tango
You are entitled to any opinion you want, no matter how gross it is. It's a free country. Well, I would even be happy to listen to your educated arguments about that.

But the point is, nobody with the knowledge about performing arts necessary to argument that, would ever call ballet "jumping around in a tight suit". Unless, maybe, if you are Pina Bausch. But she's an exception.

I get the feeling that Baryshnikov would've made a stunning ice skater if he ever wanted to pursue it. Amazing balance, leg power, and grace.
 

imported_Tango

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Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: Tango
Nice, I've never been flamed before...

I don't claim you need to be a scholar in order to have an opinion. The legendary waiter never went to college. He's not using the weight of a prestigious degree. He's using his sensibility and knowledge. You are indeed correct on the inability of scholars to judge new waves and radical changes in arts. I fully agree. Academic knowledge ALONE doesn't do the trick.

I do dance tango (which I wouldn't even qualify as a dance) and had a studied some contemporary dance in my early 20s, untill my joints told me it was enough. :)

I think the Beatles were poor instrumentalists and geniuses at song-writing. They changed the music of th 20th century maybe more than anybody else.

Sorry, I didn't mean for my post to come off as a flame. I just find it odd when someone tells me that one particular artist transcends all artist of a superficially similar field. Each time transcending artist has brought something new and undeveloped to the table, something that the previous generation might've left undeveloped.

I would say the Beatles weren't necessarily the best at playing their instruments but some of the key shifts and harmonic shifts that they created had not been previously explored. It just adds to their genius.

On a side note, I do enjoy "classical" dancing quite a bit and although not necessarily the "best" dancer, Gene Kelly has always impressed me. Shame you quit dancing.

So, back on topic, the moonwalk is stunning.

No no, I didn't mean you were flaming me. It was the total amount of posts that was overwhelming.

I didn't quit tango. I quit contemporary because I was getting too old. But I don't even qualify tango as real dancing... We tango dancers all smoke and drink like crazy. It doesn't require any physical discipline. In the end for most people is just a way to pick up girls. I still love it though, and I will never quit. The good part about the lack of required discipline is you can do it till you are 80 years old... and some do! :)
Although some dancers are really great. I love this couple:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XhGLGuI-u0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCGMtmPIkRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xja-MqC8b60&mode=related&search=

And about Gene Kelly...

No dancer can watch Fred Astaire and not know that we all should have been in another business.

Mikhail Baryshnikov

I guess he loved Gene too. I sure do.
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: Tango
No no, I didn't mean you were flaming me. It was the total amount of posts that was overwhelming.

I didn't quit tango. I quit contemporary because I was getting too old. But I don't even qualify tango as real dancing... We tango dancers all smoke and drink like crazy. It doesn't require any physical discipline. In the end for most people is just a way to pick up girls. I still love it though, and I will never quit. The good part about the lack of required discipline is you can do it till you are 80 years old... and some do! :)
Although some dancers are really great. I love this couple:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XhGLGuI-u0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCGMtmPIkRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xja-MqC8b60&mode=related&search=

And about Gene Kelly...

No dancer can watch Fred Astaire and not know that we all should have been in another business.

Mikhail Baryshnikov

I guess he loved Gene too. I sure do.

Looks like I'll be watching alot of classics soon.