Monthly Visitor - May NPD Sales

[Queasy]

Gamasutra - First month game sales dipped below $1 billion in sales since August 2007.

Hardware
Nintendo DS: 633,500
Wii: 289,500
Xbox 360: 175,000
PlayStation 3: 131,000
PlayStation 2: 117,000
PSP: 100,400

Software
1. UFC 2009 Undisputed (THQ) Xbox 360 - 679,600
2. Wii Fit (Nintendo) Wii - 352,800
3. EA Sports Active (EA) Wii - 345,800
4. UFC 2009 Undisputed (THQ) PS3 - 334,400
5. Infamous (Sony) PS3 - 175,900
6. Pokemon Platinum (Nintendo) DS - 168,900
7. Mario Kart (Nintendo) Wii - 158,300
8. Punch Out!! (Nintendo) Wii - 156,900
9. X-Men Origins: Wolverine Uncaged (Activision) Xbox 360 - 120,700
10. Wii Play (Nintendo) Wii - 109,800

I'm surprised to see UFC 2009 at #1 and #4 on the software list. I knew it had a following but not that strong of a following.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: Queasy
I'm surprised to see UFC 2009 at #1 and #4 on the software list. I knew it had a following but not that strong of a following.

Meh, same guys that play Madden.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

UFC is so good. I think the good reviews and word of mouth sold it plus all the advertising on the UFC shows.

 

[NGC_604]

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
UFC is so good. I think the good reviews and word of mouth sold it plus all the advertising on the UFC shows.

Yeah I was surprised how good the game actually is. Being a new game and all, I figured it would have quite a few problems but it's a really good game. Pisses me off that THQ got it right the 1st try on the UFC game while EA is about to release Fight Night Round 4 and they still can't get it right...

 

[ChaoZ]

What happened to PSP sales? It was way up there a while ago.

 

[R Nilla]

I wish DSi and DS Lite sales were separate. I'd like to see how they stack up.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: ChaoZ
What happened to PSP sales? It was way up there a while ago.

People might have been waiting for info on the PSP Gouge.

Sales might go up now that we know it's going to cost $250 (!)

 

[mmntech]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: ChaoZ
What happened to PSP sales? It was way up there a while ago.

People might have been waiting for info on the PSP Gouge.

Sales might go up now that we know it's going to cost $250 (!)

Apt name for it. It's expensive but then again Nintendo thinks the DSi is worth $199.99 here in Canada, same as the PSP-3000 bundles. Slow month indeed but no surprises here. We're in a recession combined with the fact that June is always a slow month for game sales. Nice to see Infamous on the list though that's another product that's grossly overpriced here.

 

[BenSkywalker]

I really don't understand why people think the new PSP is overpriced, it's main competitor is $50 more. Of course as a consumer cheaper is better, but it isn't like they are charging a premium for an overall inferior product.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
I really don't understand why people think the new PSP is overpriced, it's main competitor is $50 more. Of course as a consumer cheaper is better, but it isn't like they are charging a premium for an overall inferior product.

It's not that it's main competitor is only $50 more, it's that the same piece of hardware is $80 less.

 

[BenSkywalker]

It's not that it's main competitor is only $50 more, it's that the same piece of hardware is $80 less.

You need some firmware hack to access the 16GB of flash memory in the 3000? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

 

[abaez]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

It's not that it's main competitor is only $50 more, it's that the same piece of hardware is $80 less.

You need some firmware hack to access the 16GB of flash memory in the 3000? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

And 16gb of flash memory costs $80?

 

[BenSkywalker]

And 16gb of flash memory costs $80?

8GB costs $70 from the PSP's main competitor. I'm just being realistic, the PSP is not competition to the DS, it's main competitor is the iPodTouch and on that basis it is actually a good deal. The current 3000 model doesn't look good in the comparison due to its' larger form factor and lack of on board memory, the PSP Go fixes these issues. As a portable gaming device the DS stomps all over the PSP, as a portable media device the PSP Go stomps all over iPod Touch, and in that comparison the PSP Go is also cheaper.

I bought a PSP at launch and ended up selling it off, one of only two systems I've sold off in many years, the PSP Go is looking a lot like what I wanted out of the PSP in the first place. Not saying I will or won't end up picking one up, but if I'm in the market for another portable media device the Go will certainly be on my short list.

 

[Jules]

LoL.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

It's not that it's main competitor is only $50 more, it's that the same piece of hardware is $80 less.

You need some firmware hack to access the 16GB of flash memory in the 3000? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Maybe that firmware hack will open a secret compartment in the back where you can stick your UMD's, no?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
I really don't understand why people think the new PSP is overpriced, it's main competitor is $50 more. Of course as a consumer cheaper is better, but it isn't like they are charging a premium for an overall inferior product.

It's main competitor is the DS, not the Touch.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Maybe that firmware hack will open a secret compartment in the back where you can stick your UMD's, no?

When did Sony release 16GB rewritable UMDs? Must have missed that.

It's main competitor is the DS, not the Touch.

Perhaps for you, from a marketplace, features, price point or intended target audience it really isn't. Pack in game for the Go? Media file management software. The iPod touch is starting to push its' gaming abilities, the new 3G series of the iPod/iPhone can offer an interesting platform for game development from a media device. I think for dedicated handheld gaming device Nintendo has proven themselves to be rather untouchable, but for mixed media uses right now Apple and Sony are neck and neck.

With the Go you will not be able to walk into a store and buy a game that will run on your system, even the distribution model has been changed to match that of Apple's offerings. As a gaming platform the PSP has been utterly trounced, the only shot Sony has at carving out its market is to go head to head with Apple which the Go has made clear they are most certainly going to do(if they succeed or not is another discussion entirely).

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

Maybe that firmware hack will open a secret compartment in the back where you can stick your UMD's, no?

When did Sony release 16GB rewritable UMDs? Must have missed that.

*sigh*

They took out all the UMD stuff and added in 16GB of flash memory (cheap) and bluetooth (cheap). They are still using 5 year old technology that has most definitely paid for itself long ago. If you want to pay an $80 premium to use the same shit, then be my guest. I have a 1GHz Pentium 3 machine here at the house that I put a 1 terabyte hard drive in. Wanna buy it for $700?

 

[BenSkywalker]

Still not understanding? How about we try it this way-

Point me to a more powerful/better featured media device for less then $250 from any company.

The PSP failed as a gaming device, the console business model of selling the hardware at no margin/a loss won't work when you can't make the money up in royalties. It now enters into the typical consumer electronics business model, and in that market $250 is a very good deal for what you get. If you don't believe me, just take a look around, I was for quite a while and nothing is close at this price point.

They took out all the UMD stuff and added in 16GB of flash memory (cheap) and bluetooth (cheap).

Apple charges $70 for 8GB of flash memory and nothing else over its' other models.

They are still using 5 year old technology that has most definitely paid for itself long ago.

Being very conservative the redesign cost them millions at least- between engineering and retooling at the very least.

If you want to pay an $80 premium to use the same shit, then be my guest.

As a media device without the 16GB on board the PSP sucks, already owned one- that's why I got rid of it. Adding that to the device changes its functionality as a media device in a drastic way.

I have a 1GHz Pentium 3 machine here at the house that I put a 1 terabyte hard drive in. Wanna buy it for $700?

I can easily buy something vastly superior with the same functionality for less. Show me a media device that can trump the PSP Go for less then $250, honestly I haven't seen anything that can honestly directly compete at $300.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Another PSP GO discussion. It is overpriced and I have to lol at "for mixed media uses right now Apple and Sony are neck and neck"

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
I really don't understand why people think the new PSP is overpriced, it's main competitor is $50 more. Of course as a consumer cheaper is better, but it isn't like they are charging a premium for an overall inferior product.

It's main competitor is the DS, not the Touch.

Seriously, it doesn't come close to the touch in functionality. Anyone primarily wanting an mp3 player that plays video and has a nice browser/email tool will not even consider the PSP.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Show me a media device that can trump the PSP Go for less then $250, honestly I haven't seen anything that can honestly directly compete at $300.

I'll ignore all your other shit and answer this question. The answer? A PSP 3000 with some expandable memory. Show me a device that can compete with THAT. It certainly isn't the PSP Go, it's overpriced.

 

[Ackmed]

Some people still remain sadly ignorant.

Dont want to the Go? Dont buy it. Thats why the 3000 is still going to be around. You can buy your own 16gb stick, and use it. Guess what that brings the price of the 3000 to.

And 16gb of flash memory isnt "cheap". Its a large percentage of the cost of the Go. Sure compared to a car its cheap, not in terms of the overall cost of the device. Not to mention (I dont know why people cant grasp this simple concept) that making a new device, isnt cheap. It take time to get the production better, to lower cost. The PSP was $250 when it came out, and now its not. Guess what will happen with the Go? The price will go down in time. Common sense here folks.

Once again. You dont have to buy it. If you dont like it, then dont get it. You arent losing anything, by them putting out this device. You can still use the 3000 if you want, they arent stopping production. Its simply another option. Despite what you think, some people will want the Go.

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Seriously, it doesn't come close to the touch in functionality. Anyone primarily wanting an mp3 player that plays video and has a nice browser/email tool will not even consider the PSP.

Except not. Speak for yourself, not anyone else. I have an 8gb touch. I dont take it with me to the gym, because I use bluetooth headphones. My touch, does not have bluetooth. I have an adapter, but it doesnt work all the time, and adds bulk to the touch. So what do I use? My phone, with has an 8gb hdsc card in it, and use it for my music. I would rather use a Go, than my touch for the gym, and running. Because of bluetooth. I use my ipod for my car, and thats it anymore. I could use my phone, but I dont have a line in port on my stereo. I have the lighter adapter for the touch.

There are many things the Go will not do, than the touch can. However, the touch (and phone) is becoming a huge gaming platform, they arent all that different. The touch can be considered a "gaming platform" now. They're pushing it big time.

But Im done talking about it. Some people are simply haters, and cry about anything thats offered to them. Posting your opinion thats it overpriced 100 times, doesnt make it factual. It just makes you look foolish.

/done

 

[Jules]

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
I really don't understand why people think the new PSP is overpriced, it's main competitor is $50 more. Of course as a consumer cheaper is better, but it isn't like they are charging a premium for an overall inferior product.

It's main competitor is the DS, not the Touch.

Seriously, it doesn't come close to the touch in functionality. Anyone primarily wanting an mp3 player that plays video and has a nice browser/email tool will not even consider the PSP.

This

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Some people still remain sadly ignorant.

Dont want to the Go? Dont buy it. Thats why the 3000 is still going to be around. You can buy your own 16gb stick, and use it. Guess what that brings the price of the 3000 to.

And 16gb of flash memory isnt "cheap". Its a large percentage of the cost of the Go.
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(I dont know why people cant grasp this simple concept) that making a new device, isnt cheap. It take time to get the production better, to lower cost.
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But Im done talking about it. Some people are simply haters, and cry about anything thats offered to them. Posting your opinion thats it overpriced 100 times, doesnt make it factual. It just makes you look foolish.

16 GB SDHC cards cost $30 retail, the cost to Sony for bare flash chips will be less. They also save on the cost of the UMD drive.

PS Go probably costs less to make than the PSP3000 not more. Sony almost certainly has lowered their costs by moving to a smaller chip process (e.g. 90nm to 65nm) and combining chips. Also, much of the initial development work including the major chip design, OS, dev tools, etc. has already been paid for.

Of course we don't need to buy it. We can still explain why we choose not to buy, and claiming that is "hatin'" makes you look foolish.