Monthly Rollup updates coming to Win 7/8.1

VirtualLarry

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The pessimistic among us, would state that this removes the ability to pick-and-choose individual updates, and thus, MS can feel free to shove "telemetry" updates at Win7/8.1 users willy-nilly, hidden inside these "rollups".

It is good that they are offering security-only updates for Win7 and .Net too, but you'll have to manually download them from Windows Update Catalog site, rather than get the WU version, which includes all of the non-security updates.
 

nerp

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Telemetry? No personal information is sent. Only stuff like crash data. The kind of things that appear in the reliability monitor, etc, so fixes can be made.
 

corkyg

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It is also noted that 7 updates no longer include Win10 upgrade nags. :)
 

jpiniero

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The pessimistic among us, would state that this removes the ability to pick-and-choose individual updates, and thus, MS can feel free to shove "telemetry" updates at Win7/8.1 users willy-nilly, hidden inside these "rollups".

That's exactly why they are doing it. Have to figure they are only going to get more obnoxious, so it may just be time to dump Windows for good and start using Linux. Maybe only as a glorified gaming console.
 

BonzaiDuck

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I started two threads here which haven't yet grown stale, if only for my own posts.

I lost a day's time or more last spring over the Updates crisis. I just had the October updates bork two Sandy systems that had been stellar for a marathon of months or even years. As far as I could see, it was an offending update for Silverlight -- which I probably don't really need, but I'll look into it further and take action. I clicked "Hide" for the new one after restoring these Sandy boxes, and then did a proper installation of the previous Silverlight until I know how to proceed.

The Z170 system went through Win 7 updates like a knife through butter. And I have to decide: which of the three gets to provide main HTPC functions? Can I have it on another so I can watch TV at my desktop? Because . . . . with my lifestyle and habits, I'm like the bearded "TV man" -- witness to the armored-car heist at the beginning of the 90's film "Heat" with Pacino and d'Niro. 24 . . . 7 . . . . 365. I'm bent on burning out my LG LED/LCD 42" through maximum usage.
 

Dahak

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I just read this new article about it here:
http://arstechnica.com/information-...tart-getting-cumulative-for-7-8-2008-and-2012

So do I understand this correctly: the 3rd preview update that MS will release will be labeled clearly as such so we can safely ignore that one if we want to?

Yes, although you will get those updates in the next months rollup.

@BonzaiDuck -- I had the October rollup fail to install for me on my work laptop, but I have not looked into much yet personally
 

BonzaiDuck

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Yes, although you will get those updates in the next months rollup.

@BonzaiDuck -- I had the October rollup fail to install for me on my work laptop, but I have not looked into much yet personally

I'll just guess that your laptop isn't your main machine, but my troubles threw my whole week into the toilet when suddenly -- two Sandy Bridge K systems took a dump with the same symptoms. One five years running day and night, the other waking, sleeping hibernating over two years with two-year-old hardware.

Check the AV or Security Program you use. I was able to trace this back to the Silverlight version update and to AVP16 . . . . service: Kaspersky. Kaspersky users started complaining in July about the same troubles, or about 50% of my own observations at boot-time. The other 50% involved Silverlight after the desktop appears with system freezes and restarts -- or just failure to respond to mouse clicks for things like Task Manager or frequently used programs.

I'm thinking to at least try MSE on a couple machines. If it's robust enough, it will save me as much as $50 annually. But it's just more of a "monopoly" situation, . . . . too . . .

If I keep talking about this here and in other threads, I just can't describe the euphoria of being happier than a pig in poop for solving this. I just wish I hadn't deleted the win 10 dual-boot configuration for one of those systems.

What a freakin' relief. That's all I can say . . .