Montana Prematurely Ends Unemployment Benefits- Return to Work you Bums!

[Mai72]

Basically the govenor is saying that local businesses are having difficulty finding help because too many people are taking advantage of extended unemployment.

So, he decides to end unemployment benefits. It's time to get back to work I guess.

But but but... What about my 72 character in LOL? How can I grow him to be the greatest if I have to do this thing called work! Oh, and how can I finish the past seasons of GoT if I have to work.

IT'S NOT FAIR!! IT'S NOT FAIR!! Just kidding btw. Seriously though. What is someone to do if they truly can't find work, and they are closing off unemployment benefits? The $1200 to work bonuses are a good start.

Expanded unemployment benefits are out. Return-to-work bonuses are in.

Gov. Gianforte will end expanded unemployment benefits in favor of a one-time $1,200 bonus for Montanans who re-enter the workforce.

montanafreepress.org

 

[compuwiz1]

Extending unemployment is a disincentive and there are people who absolutely will not work, if they don't have to. The Taco Bell near my house has to close at 6:30 PM because they can't keep enough staff, because the government enables these entitled little bitches to claim they are fearful of COVID19 and collect unemployment. Yeah, I could have taken that easy way out too, but I have worked. I have a nephew who is sitting around playing video games all day, while collecting, even though he's got a BA and graduated from college two years ago. Still lives with mom at 25.

 

[brycejones]

Extending unemployment is a disincentive and there are people who absolutely will not work, if they don't have to. The Taco Bell near my house has to close at 6:30 PM because they can't keep enough staff, because the government enables these entitled little bitches to claim they are fearful of COVID19 and collect unemployment. Yeah, I could have taken that easy way out too, but I have worked. I have a nephew who is sitting around playing video games all day, while collecting, even though he's got a BA and graduated from college two years ago. Still lives with mom at 25.

I know who the entitled bitch is and it isn't the person who you want to work for shit wages and put with up idiots who don't respect them.

There is a really crazy and insane way to deal with this "problem" actually pay people enough. The fact that a $300 week extra in unemployment is enough for many people to do better staying home than working highlights a huge problem in our society and it isn't that people are "entitled little bitches".

 

[Paratus]

Extending unemployment is a disincentive and there are people who absolutely will not work, if they don't have to. The Taco Bell near my house has to close at 6:30 PM because they can't keep enough staff, because the government enables these entitled little bitches to claim they are fearful of COVID19 and collect unemployment. Yeah, I could have taken that easy way out too, but I have worked. I have a nephew who is sitting around playing video games all day, while collecting, even though he's got a BA and graduated from college two years ago. Still lives with mom at 25.

If you want the Taco Bell open later why aren’t you working there? You’re not on social security are you?

 

[hal2kilo]

If you want the Taco Bell open later why aren’t you working there? You’re not on social security are you?

Learn how to cook.

 

[Meghan54]

Extending unemployment is a disincentive and there are people who absolutely will not work, if they don't have to. The Taco Bell near my house has to close at 6:30 PM because they can't keep enough staff, because the government enables these entitled little bitches to claim they are fearful of COVID19 and collect unemployment. Yeah, I could have taken that easy way out too, but I have worked. I have a nephew who is sitting around playing video games all day, while collecting, even though he's got a BA and graduated from college two years ago. Still lives with mom at 25.

So what you're saying is you are jealous because he's two steps ahead of you?

 

[Zorba]

Setting the UI high will have the intended consequence of raising wages, so seems like it's working.

Also I was making $300/WK when I was 16, 2 decades ago. Sad that this is still seen as baller money.

 

[woolfe9998]

Isn't that the guy who body slammed that reporter back in '16?

 

[sactoking]

Isn't that the guy who body slammed that reporter back in '16?

It doesn't matter. People's past actions only matter when we're discussing black people who deserved to be killed by cops because they had been arrested 20 years ago.

 

[Moonbeam]

Extending unemployment is a disincentive and there are people who absolutely will not work, if they don't have to. The Taco Bell near my house has to close at 6:30 PM because they can't keep enough staff, because the government enables these entitled little bitches to claim they are fearful of COVID19 and collect unemployment. Yeah, I could have taken that easy way out too, but I have worked. I have a nephew who is sitting around playing video games all day, while collecting, even though he's got a BA and graduated from college two years ago. Still lives with mom at 25.

One of the big differences between conservatives and liberals is that conservatives gravitate to what is called 'low level thinking'.

This relates to the fact that conservatives feel a sense of insecurity when things aren't black and white. For example, you look at one side of an issue that is raised by helping people, the fact that people tend not to respect what they get for free. The simple solution and let me add simple minded solution to that is not to give them anything for free. But this begs a further complication, the fact that their need may be real. You are then suggesting we let people drown because they may be unwilling to thank us properly for saving their lives. So you can see why liberals will generally look at you as though you aren't really human.

But it's not that you are inhuman but that you are riddled with fear and can't see it. Who wants to know they are moral cowards. And your fear stems from the fact that what motivated you to succeed in life and to value your self sufficiency is because you were made to feel worthless every time you yourself expressed signs you too wanted to get help. Sadly so many parents feel empty inside and can't give anything but putting others down who want anything from them. Now you are that way yourself.

Welfare is a complex issue whether it be unemployment, social security, or various forms of other help, how to identify real need from welfare graft from people who have little in the way of self respect, not even what you should feel for yourself having made your own way in life.

Let me congratulate you for that.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Extending unemployment is a disincentive and there are people who absolutely will not work, if they don't have to. The Taco Bell near my house has to close at 6:30 PM because they can't keep enough staff, because the government enables these entitled little bitches to claim they are fearful of COVID19 and collect unemployment. Yeah, I could have taken that easy way out too, but I have worked. I have a nephew who is sitting around playing video games all day, while collecting, even though he's got a BA and graduated from college two years ago. Still lives with mom at 25.

Or.. and hear me out... They could pay a fucking living wage.

 

[VW MAN]

Or.. and hear me out... They could pay a fucking living wage.

Thats socialism you evil commie libtard bastard. If we let everyone have a living wage the billionaires would suffer undue hardships. You shoulda been born into a more privileged family.

/s

 

[bbhaag]

So my opinion will not be the most popular but I am a SBO in Illinois and I'm seeing the same thing here. The majority of the applicants I've had are either high school students or retirees. HS students have to many scheduling conflicts and retirees are finding the work to difficult or strenuous compared to what they spent the last 30+ years doing. I've already had three call after the first few weeks and quit.
It might come down to pay as this year we only offered $15-17/hour to new hires. It's just that we've had a complete lack of people applying so the app stack was very limited. I'll be honest is really sucks because the people who are applying don't need the money(retirees)and the ones that do are still collecting unemployment so were is the incentive to go out and find a job?

Before anyone jumps on me the positions I need filled are for a general retail setting. Things like helping customers, restocking shelves, cashiering ect. nothing that is to overly complicated. It's really just basic stuff but the number of people applying this year was just so small it has really left us short handed. Couple that with sales being up compared to last year and it has really left our core staff feeling strained and honestly burned out.

I mean how much am I supposed to offer per hour to get people in to apply? Double what I'm offering now? I know a lot of you guys like to talk about offering a living wage to your workers but as a SBO who owns a retail establishment I just can't afford to offer $30-40/hour in a retail setting especially considering I have a Super Walmart and Menards literally right across the street from me so customers price check us ALL THE FUCKING TIME against some of the largest retailers in the country. A lot of these corporations have more power than a lot of COUNTRIES do.

 

[brycejones]

So my opinion will not be the most popular but I am a SBO in Illinois and I'm seeing the same thing here. The majority of the applicants I've had are either high school students or retirees. HS students have to many scheduling conflicts and retirees are finding the work to difficult or strenuous compared to what they spent the last 30+ years doing. I've already had three call after the first few weeks and quit.
It might come down to pay as this year we only offered $15-17/hour to new hires. It's just that we've had a complete lack of people applying so the app stack was very limited. I'll be honest is really sucks because the people who are applying don't need the money(retirees)and the ones that do are still collecting unemployment so were is the incentive to go out and find a job?

Before anyone jumps on me the positions I need filled are for a general retail setting. Things like helping customers, restocking shelves, cashiering ect. nothing that is to overly complicated. It's really just basic stuff but the number of people applying this year was just so small it has really left us short handed. Couple that with sales being up compared to last year and it has really left our core staff feeling strained and honestly burned out.

I mean how much am I supposed to offer per hour to get people in to apply? Double what I'm offering now? I know a lot of you guys like to talk about offering a living wage to your workers but as a SBO who owns a retail establishment I just can't afford to offer $30-40/hour in a retail setting especially considering I have a Super Walmart and Menards literally right across the street from me so customers price check us ALL THE FUCKING TIME against some of the largest retailers in the country. A lot of these corporations have more buying power than a lot of COUNTRIES do.

I doubt anyone here is saying you need to offer $30 to $40 an hour. But yes if you want to attract workers you’re going to have to pay more than you are now.

 

[bbhaag]

I doubt anyone here is saying you need to offer $30 to $40 an hour. But yes if you want to attract workers you’re going to have to pay more than you are now.

Or hear me out because I know it's going to sound kind of crazy but we could stop extending unemployment benefits. It could in theory incentivize people to go out and seek employment.
In all honesty though we are on two different sides of the fence. I'll never see it your way and you will never see it from mine. That's ok though because I'll just keep doing what I do and so will you.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Everyone is a cry baby these days. We wont low or zero interest rates, we want tons of tax benefits, cash back, stimulus payments and even payments for sitting on ass doing nothing.

I for one am not of these people. I've held a job all my life, do not claim any of the myriad government giveaways been doled out these days, favor raising interest rates substantially to reward savers and punish excessive debtors like the US government, etc.

Most people will be in for a rude awakening when we finally put an end to all these unnecessary monetary and fiscal largess, assuming lawmakers have the guts to stand up to all the damn crybabies in society these days.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Or.. and hear me out... They could pay a fucking living wage.

There is always a living wage. Simply live below your means, no matter how low.

 

[bbhaag]

Everyone is a cry baby these days. We wont low or zero interest rates, we want tons of tax benefits, cash back, stimulus payments and even payments for sitting on ass doing nothing.

I for one am not of these people. I've held a job all my life, do not claim any of the myriad government giveaways been doled out these days, favor raising interest rates substantially to reward savers and punish excessive debtors like the US government, etc.

Most people will be in for a rude awakening when we finally put an end to all these unnecessary monetary and fiscal largess, assuming lawmakers have the guts to stand up to all the damn crybabies in society these days.

IDK about all that. Before I was a successful SBO my wife and I took advantage of several government sponsored programs such as WIC and the All Kids Care program offered here in Illinois. There are benefits to offering these programs to people in need.
I look back at our tax returns from time to time and in 2005 we made just over $7000 between the two of us. If it wasn't for the programs I mentioned above and several others I don't know how we would have made it especially considering we had a three year old son at the time.

Don't get me wrong I understand the benefits of these extended unemployment benefits and the stimulus checks from the feds but I don't know were this leaves me as a SBO who can't find help. Offering more money to workers is not a viable solution either as it just passes those costs onto the consumer which makes me even less competitive on pricing than my competition.

 

[weblooker2021]

All states should do this. It's time to open economy fully and get all people back to work.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

There is absolutely no question - 've seen countless for hire signs in plenty of restaurants, stores, etc... They are undoubtedly desperate.

I've also seen the opposite end. I've been monitoring the reddit forum /r/unemployment - and plenty have no problem mentioning - they don't mind milking the current programs as long as possible. They want to continue it as LONG as possible. That's undoubtedly a problem. Not working should NEVER be an advantage.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Or hear me out because I know it's going to sound kind of crazy but we could stop extending unemployment benefits. It could in theory incentivize people to go out and seek employment.
In all honesty though we are on two different sides of the fence. I'll never see it your way and you will never see it from mine. That's ok though because I'll just keep doing what I do and so will you.

Understand that no one here that has ever been in your position has ever been in a position of hiring low-skill labor. Ever. Yet they will give you pointers and advice as if they have.

It's rather hilarious. Hell, I doubt the people here have ever applied for unemployment, much less during a pandemic for 3+ months.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

There is always a living wage. Simply live below your means, no matter how low.

I said it previously - before it was "WE WANT $15 MINIMUM WAGE!"

Amazon and many other employers said "Okay! We have that as minimum for our positions"

Then they move on to more money lol.

 

[sportage]

I know who the entitled bitch is and it isn't the person who you want to work for shit wages and put with up idiots who don't respect them. WHO WON'T WEAR MASKS!!!!!

Covid IS STILL a threat and don't believe it when some republican tells you that it is not.
Bottom line here..... a lot of it is that low wage and entry level workers are no longer willing to put up with slave wages. These F...ing companies including Taco Bell could easily pay their workers $18 - $22 an hour and Taco Bells knows that. It boils down to greed. Companies like Taco Bell not only want to make a profit but that's not good enough for them. Companies want to pay slave wages and hire slave labor because companies want more profit than they fairly deserve. Companies want enough so they can pay out billions to acquire OTHER companies. Taco Bell isn't happy just being the Taco Bell that pays it's workers $18 an hour, no... Taco Bell rather pay $11 an hour then buy out A&W or Long John's Silvers, or buy out K-Mart or some other company. And greedy companies want to donate millions to political campaigns and political causes. And greedy companies want to pay millions to their lawyers to fight lawsuits from harmed and endangered employees. And greedy companies want to put some low waged kid out there at the counter exposed to maniacs with guns because Taco Bell doesn't want to invest in security or hiring security guards. You can bet the owners have a shit-nest of security at their own homes, but at the store tp protect that employee? Nope! Let the employee die by the hand of some maniac while collecting $11 an hour.

This was the way it was back in the early 1900's, and workers then refused to put up with this low wage crap and corporate greed. So what happened? UNIONS HAPPENED. Unions happened to give that employee a decent wage and thus America developed THE MIDDLE CLASS. What we need today are the old fashion UNIONS once again. America needs to return back to the days of unions so we can get those workers at Taco Bell $20 an hour..... TO START.

 

[Shmee]

Politics aside, Montana is where Farcry 5 happens. That did not end well.

 

[feralkid]

All states should do this. It's time to open economy fully and get all people back to work.

Why not wait until they are back to work before you pull the rug out from under their families.

Fool wants to spike the ball on the 5 yard line!