Mom who shot kids, self denied food stamps

[Infohawk]

Whatever happened to the fact that this woman was just crazy? Has that ever crossed your mind?

Yeah basically it's pointed out in the original post... Calm down.

 

[Infohawk]

Shouldn't have kids then.

Have you posted in the Social Darwnism thread yet?

 

[Agfadoc]

I like how some people always say calm down. Like it's the most overused debate tactic of all time! Well by liberals, at least. I don't know if InfoHawk is or not I don't care, but it's overused at any rate.

 

[JSt0rm]

I like how some people always say calm down. Like it's the most overused debate tactic of all time! Well by liberals, at least. I don't know if InfoHawk is or not I don't care, but it's overused at any rate.

dont be retarded. Telling someone to calm down isnt a debate tactic.

 

[Infohawk]

I like how some people always say calm down. Like it's the most overused debate tactic of all time! Well by liberals, at least. I don't know if InfoHawk is or not I don't care, but it's overused at any rate.

You went on a rant because you think it boils down to her being crazy. I said that in the original post. What more do you want? You want me to ignore the fact that our aid system is completely disorganized? In this case, if it we had a centralized database, this woman should have come up as having a custody dispute in another state.

 

[Infohawk]

You are not the majority. I will say this again.. YOU ARE NOT THE MAJORITY!

Oh and by the way when you use CAPS and repeat yourself you make yourself sound hysterical and that's why I suggested you might want to calm down.

 

[OutHouse]

the little girl died last night.

http://news.yahoo.com/girl-shot-mom-texas-standoff-made-grim-facebook-010814198.html

State and local officials said Rachelle Grimmer was a troubled woman wandering with her children from residence to residence after moving to Texas from Zanesville Ohio in March.

At one point, the three lived in a tent on the beach near Corpus Christi. Neighbors in Laredo said the children were often seen begging for food while living in a crumbling recreational vehicle which didn't have a place to cook food.

 

[SagaLore]

the idea that you have to fill out an 18 page application to get food for your children is a bit over the top.

If I'm starving and can't find work and have a family, I am willing to fill out a 100 page application if it means eating and feeding my kids.

Of course maybe that's why I don't need food stamps in the first place.

 

[Infohawk]

Of course maybe that's why I don't need food stamps in the first place.

Right. So are you suggesting we punish people who are having difficulties when we could just have more organized government services?

 

[halik]

Sounds like the situation resolved itself...

I sent like like 12 challenge/response letters and 5 phone calls when MI f'd up my unemployment eligibility. Not to mention jumped thru all the hoops of showing up at the office yade yada. If you want free* money, you generally have to jump thru hoops.

*in this case, my unemployment insurance was prepaid with my previous earnings.

 

[SagaLore]

Right. So are you suggesting we punish people who are having difficulties when we could just have more organized government services?

You didn't mention anything about punishment in the article. Was she publicly flogged or had a scarlet letter sewn onto her jacket?

 

[Texashiker]

the little girl died last night.

That is seriously messed up.

There are so many questions, why didnt the family get the help they needed, where was the rest of the family, where is the father of the children, where are the grandparents on the fathers and mothers side, did the mother have a history of metal illness,,,.

I just could not imagine living in a tent on the beach like what the article says they did.

What led her and her kids to such a low point in their lives?

 

[JSt0rm]

That is seriously messed up.

There are so many questions, why didnt the family get the help they needed, where was the rest of the family, where is the father of the children, where are the grandparents on the fathers and mothers side, did the mother have a history of metal illness,,,.

I just could not imagine living in a tent on the beach like what the article says they did.

What led her and her kids to such a low point in their lives?

where was child services in the state of texas?

 

[Texashiker]

where was child services in the state of texas?

Its a lose lose situation.

Take a child out of the home, and government is poking its nose where it does not belong.

Leave a child in the home, and sometimes bad things like this happen.

From what I read in the article, it said the family was almost homeless. Last time I heard, being poor was not a crime. Where do you draw the line? Should children be taken away from all parents who do not make above a certain amount of income?

 

[SilthDraeth]

The food stamp program is a federal program.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/

Regardless of what state you go to, its pretty much going to be the same.

I posted anecdotal experience from Arizona. There may be Federal Guidelines but it isn't the same in each State.