Mom beats and kills her 4-year-old son because she believed he was gay

[Zaap]

You're a real scumbag.

Scumbags like you are why I hate Democrats.

Ditto, except in my case not hate but rather "dismiss as mostly ignorant dipshits."

He's too dumb to know that anti-gay isn't uncommon among blacks, so trying to make it a R vs D issue is just fucking stupid. But then "fucking stupid" is the Democrat base.

 

[werepossum]

Like I said, the hypocrisy in this thread is palatable.

True.

There are better options than murder.

How is that hypocrisy? With a four month old fetus, the mother cannot divorce herself from the child without killing it. At four years, the mother can easily divorce herself from the child without its even missing a meal, as you admit. The two simply do not correlate.

 

[Vic]

Minority single mother. You do the math on which party she is more likely to be part of... :hmm:

She and her white boyfriend were homeless meth addicts.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can be so opinionated about things they know nothing about.

 

[werepossum]

She and her white boyfriend were homeless meth addicts.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can be so opinionated about things they know nothing about.

I'd be amazed if this woman ever voted, much less was part of any party or ideology beyond getting high. If anything, maybe she voted for Obama due to shared skin color and the historic nature of his election. Probably not even that.

It's worth pointing out that people have been so opinionated on both sides of the aisle here.

 

[Vic]

I'd be amazed if this woman ever voted, much less was part of any party or ideology beyond getting high. If anything, maybe she voted for Obama due to shared skin color and the historic nature of his election. Probably not even that.

It's worth pointing out that people have been so opinionated on both sides of the aisle here.

Well of course. In this thread even. People love to jump to conclusions that confirm their biases.

 

[momeNt]

Like I said, the hypocrisy in this thread is palatable.




True.

There are better options than murder.

Well removing a fetus from the mother is more abandonment than murder in my eyes. But that depends on what your views are on rights.

I guess it depends on the type of abortion too, induced labor when the fetus isn't viable doesn't qualify as murder compared to D&E or vacuum, where the process itself kills the fetus.

I answer this from a strict anarcho-libertarian point of view, where your right to liberty trumps all else, providing non-aggression. One could argue that removing someone from your care when you are the only option for survival is aggressive, but I'm leaning more towards no.

Abortion is likely to be more of a transitory issue as birth control becomes less taboo and religion begins to stop calling it a sin, and conservatives stop believing it promotes promiscuity.

Robotic uteri would solve this problem too, instead of abortions they could just remove the fetus, place it in the robotic uterus, and when it is viable, allow it to be adopted. Then there would be no excuse for abortions, and it would really test whether or not society wants these unwanted children in the first place, or wants mothers to want the unwanted children.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

My first thoughts were: She'll make a great Republican/Tea Party voter.

You used to be a level-headed, intelligent poster. I have to assume you got kicked in the head by the Democrat's donkey or something to be acting this way.

 

[momeNt]

You used to be a level-headed, intelligent poster. I have to assume you got kicked in the head by the Democrat's donkey or something to be acting this way.

There's an excellent Ted-Talk about a human genetic need to identify with a team, and support that team irrationally. That post was an excellent example of supporting your democratic team via opposite team bashing.

It's just how most people are wired, they can't help it.

 

[BoberFett]

I believe it's a continuation of Bush Derangement Syndrome. I think a lot of Democrats suffered from it, and are now exhibiting signs of severe mental illness.

 

[Jeff7]

The hypocrisy in this thread is palatable.

Kill a 4 month old fetus, it is perfectly fine, legal, morally acceptable, the womans right, no big deal,,,, etc.

Kill a 4 year old child, oh the outrage.

Either you protect life, or you do not, please make up your mind.

The pro-choice crowd has not right to complain about a parent killing their child. If you do complain, then you need to re-exam your morals and values.

What the parents did to the child is terrible. Hopefully justice will be served.

Life isn't black&white, as much as anyone loves it to be that way. Beyond shades of gray, right straight into full color.

Sorry, not everything's easy, cut&dry.

- Is a zygote suddenly sacred?
- Should miscarriages be saved in an attempt to save the zygote or fetus?
- Is every unfertilized egg a missed life?

I am against the death penalty, but this is the type of situation that makes me waiver on that.

I'd support it more fully myself, but I dislike the manner in which it is biased. Rich people can avoid prison if they throw enough good lawyers at it, or know the right people. Executing rich people though?
And...the risk of executing someone who is in fact innocent. Some prosecutors work mostly to improve their own image, and maybe chances at future political office, with honor and justice seen as little more than barriers in the way of their other goals.

And then you've got people who will beat a child to death and then complain that they didn't get a chance to assemble an attempt at an alibi. They really don't seem worth keeping alive. You've proven that something is quite dangerously wrong with your brain. Containing you for life will not bring any benefit to society.
Time to wait and see what the justice system figures out for these people.

I believe it's a continuation of Bush Derangement Syndrome. I think a lot of Democrats suffered from it, and are now exhibiting signs of severe mental illness.

Do also be sure to say something negative about the hard-rights who equate lefties who support abortion rights with someone who would brutally murder a child. I think there's at least one of those in this thread...


Oh well. You've got Democrats who'll go nuts on the Koch brothers, and Republicans who'll go nuts on Soros for the same reasons - but rarely the other way around.

 

[1prophet]

My first thoughts were: She'll make a great Republican/Tea Party voter.

But according to your ilk she wouldn't be the right color/ethnicity for those Republican/Tea Party types you guys constantly rail against.

 

[werepossum]

Well removing a fetus from the mother is more abandonment than murder in my eyes. But that depends on what your views are on rights.

I guess it depends on the type of abortion too, induced labor when the fetus isn't viable doesn't qualify as murder compared to D&E or vacuum, where the process itself kills the fetus.

I answer this from a strict anarcho-libertarian point of view, where your right to liberty trumps all else, providing non-aggression. One could argue that removing someone from your care when you are the only option for survival is aggressive, but I'm leaning more towards no.

Abortion is likely to be more of a transitory issue as birth control becomes less taboo and religion begins to stop calling it a sin, and conservatives stop believing it promotes promiscuity.

Robotic uteri would solve this problem too, instead of abortions they could just remove the fetus, place it in the robotic uterus, and when it is viable, allow it to be adopted. Then there would be no excuse for abortions, and it would really test whether or not society wants these unwanted children in the first place, or wants mothers to want the unwanted children.

Or anti-abortion groups stepping up to the plate. She wants an abortion; you don't want her to have an abortion. What are you willing to do for her in order that the child may live?

You used to be a level-headed, intelligent poster. I have to assume you got kicked in the head by the Democrat's donkey or something to be acting this way.

lol +1

 

[SlickSnake]

The hypocrisy in this thread is palatable.

Kill a 4 month old fetus, it is perfectly fine, legal, morally acceptable, the womans right, no big deal,,,, etc.

Kill a 4 year old child, oh the outrage.

Either you protect life, or you do not, please make up your mind.

The pro-choice crowd has not right to complain about a parent killing their child. If you do complain, then you need to re-exam your morals and values.

What the parents did to the child is terrible. Hopefully justice will be served.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36238980&postcount=65

So infanticide is natural? Then why is it illegal for humans?

I once had a rabbit who would eat her kits. Every litter she had she would eat the heads and most of the bodies of her babies. I ended up knocking that rabbit in the head and eating her.

If a human woman were to eat her baby, she would be put in prison.

 

[Vic]

Convicted and sentenced to life in prison.
http://www.kgw.com/news/Tigard-mom-gets-life-for-killing-son-4-255820801.html

 

[MongGrel]

In cases like this, I still think Cruxifiction should still be a doable thing.

Just me I guess.

 

[sportage]

Naturally she was a republican. What else? She used her traditional family values to beat the kid to death.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Naturally she was a republican. What else? She used her traditional family values to beat the kid to death.

Do you really need to use this tragedy to try and make a stupid/meaningless political 'point'?

 

[WhipperSnapper]

There's an excellent Ted-Talk about a human genetic need to identify with a team, and support that team irrationally. That post was an excellent example of supporting your democratic team via opposite team bashing.

My comment made perfect sense. She killed her kid because she thought he was gay. People with anti-gay views are almost exclusively Republicans and Tea Partiers.

 

[werepossum]

Convicted and sentenced to life in prison.
http://www.kgw.com/news/Tigard-mom-gets-life-for-killing-son-4-255820801.html

A bullet through her otherwise underutilized cranium would have been preferable, but I suppose in today's world this is the best we can get.

 

[mrjminer]

Convicted and sentenced to life in prison.
http://www.kgw.com/news/Tigard-mom-gets-life-for-killing-son-4-255820801.html

Justice served. Unsurprising, as this crazy bitch obviously needed to get locked up for a while. 12.5 years for the boyfriend seems pretty light, though. I thought he was going to get longer, but I didn't read up on all he did. IIRC he did performed the kick that caused the injuries that the mother then neglected. I thought that would have put him up to the 25-year marker too

 

[BoberFett]

My comment made perfect sense. She killed her kid because she thought he was gay. People with anti-gay views are almost exclusively Republicans and Tea Partiers.

The trades and their unions are full of gay bashing racists, and they vote Democrat.

 

[thraashman]

The trades and their unions are full of gay bashing racists, and they vote Democrat.

You realize your generalization here about unions voting democrat is just as bad as WhipperSnapper's generalization about republicans and tea partiers.