Modern celeron or pentium faster than an amd x4?

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Well, I have an i5 2320, and barring component failure, I could see it easily lasting another 10 years, with a gpu upgrade. In fact, if an upgrade is needed in 10 years, it most likely will be for non x86 software, not because of lack of cpu power.

I dont really see the point of a Nuc though. Just get a refurb or cheap pentium/i3 system. Except for isolated circumstances like for a very limited space, it just seems like you give up too much in cooling and expandability with a nuc for the only benefit being a smaller footprint. And it still has to be plugged in and attached to a monitor, so it is not really portable.
 
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Yes - this is the problem, ha! It's too adequate - photoshop, windows 10 (buggy drivers aside), and of course office buzzed along on the ssd I added, so I'm worried he's marching into an upgrade that he won't notice. I'm actually trying to get him to go with a chromebox, I have 2 kids now and just don't have the time to troubleshoot the mess that windows 10 seems to be. It's currently at least 2 hours every time I visit, smack into dinner time with my own kids. He's in his 80s, "old dog, new tricks." He HATES windows 10 and is confused by it. My mom loves her chromebook but he's a photoshop guy and will need his local files, I'm confused myself. Maybe a cheap macmini?

This is why i'm confused about it being a psu issue - I booted using a chrome usb launcher and ran the system without random reboot for hours. Also, safe mode works just fine. I spent 4 hours the other day tracking down background tasks and updating drivers to no avail, I'd suggest a clean install but he doesn't know how to backup and restore, or even how to install windows so it's a 10 hour+ task relying on slow usb 2.0 (maybe even 1.0, sheesh) external hard drives.

I feel your pain with windows 10. I have had driver issues since day one, and cannot seem to solve them. I wish to hell I had never upgraded from 7, but now am past the one month period in which I can revert back. I hate Win 10 so much that I am seriously considering reverting to the factory default original Win 7 install. But then I suppose MS would try to "upgrade" me to Win 10 again. Honestly, Vista got a lot of flack, but I hate win 10 far more than I disliked Vista.
 
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I feel your pain with windows 10. I have had driver issues since day one, and cannot seem to solve them. I wish to hell I had never upgraded from 7, but now am past the one month period in which I can revert back. I hate Win 10 so much that I am seriously considering reverting to the factory default original Win 7 install. But then I suppose MS would try to "upgrade" me to Win 10 again. Honestly, Vista got a lot of flack, but I hate win 10 far more than I disliked Vista.

I'm in awe of how complicated they made simple things. Safe mode? Sure, pressing F8 worked for decades, but now the "improved" way is a non-intuitive 5 step process. That's what's annoying, not that there are differences but the differences are so strange and fundamentally backwards that it feels like a lot of change for the sake of change and not improvement. This is why I like OS X, it's consistent. Also high CPU and hard drive utilization when I'm just opening a browser isn't fun