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Modern Art Music: Is it music? *Now with music sample*

Woodchuck2000

Golden Member
There's a similar thread floating around about rap music at the moment, I just wondered what people thought of modern art music. That's composers such as Schoenberg, Webern, Stockhausen, Berg and the other serialist/pointillists.

For those of you unfamiliar, there's a link here to an extract from Stockhausen's 'Kontra-Punkte I'
 
Yes It is music.

What about John Cage? He is perhaps one of the most influential avant-garde composer of the 20th century. One of his most famous compositions was 4 minutes 33 seconds where there is complete silence for 4 mintues 33 seconds.
 
Technically, yes it's music. You can put a time signature in front of dripping water and call it music. But IMO, it's pointless. People who claim to enjoy this are people trying to show how much more intelligent, open-minded, and different they are than mainstream society. Music is just as much of a science as it is an art. Harmonies exist as absolutes. I don't believe you can put any random arrangement of notes together and call it pleasurable music. And I will go to my grave never believing that they put any effort into writing that crap, as much as they might believe it to be true. <artistic voice> "Yes, that sounds beautiful. I'll put that note.......here."</artistic voice>
 
That actually doesn't sound too different from The Rite of Spring..


People didn't consider it music when it came out, and now its a classic


 
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