hey i read in digit-life that there is a way to turn a radeon 9500 non pro into a 9700 non pro by using some patch with the riva-tuner program. now.. i have no idea what the site for riva tuner is or where to d/l it.. can anyone help or tell me if they turned their 9500's to a 9700? oh.. and i know the 9500 128 mb has 256 bits of memory bus just like the 9700.. but how the hell can u turn it into a 9700 if the 9500 has only 4 pipelines..?! damn.. i sure am confused.. help would be apreciated...
mod a 9500 to 9700 on the software level?
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I too have thought about doing this...
From what research that I have done:
First of all, you'll need to get a 9500 non-pro card using a red PCB where the memory chips are laid out in an "L" Shape (2 chips above and 2 chips beside the GPU fan). If you have a card that has all 4 chips in one row, it will not work (fully, at least).
The reason it works is because some of the earlier-produced cards were essentially the same board as the 9700 card, they just scaled it down to "9500 speeds". If you look on the actual hardware, there are actually 8 pipelines on these versions of the 9500 non-pro cards. 4 of them are disabled (and untested).
The various "software mods" for this essentially enable the extra 4 pipelines on the card. Sometimes, it will be a great success, while other times it will not. Notice that I said the extra 4 pipelines were untested - this means that ATI/Sapphire/etc only tested the 4 enabled pipelines for these 9500np cards, and shipped them out. They did not test the card for all 8 pipelines working. It is quite possible that you could get a card where not all 8 pipelines work completely correct because the extra 4 were not factory tested!
Some people experience various "artifacting" and "checkerboarding" whenever they perform the mod, and I believe that it's for this various reason. Many polls have concluded that there is only about a 60-70% success rate for doing this mod.
Also, with this mod you are taking a 9500 non-pro to a 9700 non-pro. You only achive the "Pro" status by overclocking both the core and memory to faster speeds, therefore sort of "simulating" the performance of a 9700 Pro card.
For more information and possible download, check here: http://www.maxdownloads.com/~ian/wizzard/
Again, this is just information that I have gathered through my limited research time on the subject.
From what research that I have done:
First of all, you'll need to get a 9500 non-pro card using a red PCB where the memory chips are laid out in an "L" Shape (2 chips above and 2 chips beside the GPU fan). If you have a card that has all 4 chips in one row, it will not work (fully, at least).
The reason it works is because some of the earlier-produced cards were essentially the same board as the 9700 card, they just scaled it down to "9500 speeds". If you look on the actual hardware, there are actually 8 pipelines on these versions of the 9500 non-pro cards. 4 of them are disabled (and untested).
The various "software mods" for this essentially enable the extra 4 pipelines on the card. Sometimes, it will be a great success, while other times it will not. Notice that I said the extra 4 pipelines were untested - this means that ATI/Sapphire/etc only tested the 4 enabled pipelines for these 9500np cards, and shipped them out. They did not test the card for all 8 pipelines working. It is quite possible that you could get a card where not all 8 pipelines work completely correct because the extra 4 were not factory tested!
Some people experience various "artifacting" and "checkerboarding" whenever they perform the mod, and I believe that it's for this various reason. Many polls have concluded that there is only about a 60-70% success rate for doing this mod.
Also, with this mod you are taking a 9500 non-pro to a 9700 non-pro. You only achive the "Pro" status by overclocking both the core and memory to faster speeds, therefore sort of "simulating" the performance of a 9700 Pro card.
For more information and possible download, check here: http://www.maxdownloads.com/~ian/wizzard/
Again, this is just information that I have gathered through my limited research time on the subject.
Oh, and FYI, I have decided that ~$15-20 price difference is not worth it to me, and I'll be ordering a 9500 Pro card (and possibly overclocking it a little to get it closer to 9700 speeds ). This is just my personal preference, as I do not want to rely on something that boils down to a crapshoot in order to get good performance for my PC at a good price .
Just my 2 cents
). This is just my personal preference, as I do not want to rely on something that boils down to a crapshoot in order to get good performance for my PC at a good price .Just my 2 cents
no you're absolutely right.. i myself have already ordered the 9500 pro, im also not very fond of the idea that after modding it could all go straight to hell.. i just read a review and got interested in the possibilities for the 9500 non-pro.. man.. finding a 9500 pro in stock is hard..! i'm buying mine from buy.com and they should have it in stock in a couple of days... anyways.. thanx for the explanation..! it was mostley appreciated.
First off the only moddable 9500 non-pro is the one with the ram in an "L" pattern. These have about a 60% chance of being modded into a 9700 non-pro (no artifacts). The other type has the "inline" ram pattern and can be modded into a 9500 pro, but I have no idea as to the success rate.
I'd say either just buy a 9500 pro, or troll Newegg as they sometimes have 9700 non-pro refurbs in the $175 price range, but they go fast.
I'd say either just buy a 9500 pro, or troll Newegg as they sometimes have 9700 non-pro refurbs in the $175 price range, but they go fast.
Simple step by step 9500>9700 guide
Anyone know a safe core overclock for a Sapphire 9500np>9800 with stock cooling?
Currently running 345 core & 300 mem.
Anyone know a safe core overclock for a Sapphire 9500np>9800 with stock cooling?
Currently running 345 core & 300 mem.
Well, I moded mine at bios level to 290 core, 300 mem...
Shappire 9500 npro 128 mb -> 9800 mod
I won't push beyond that... The card is fast enough that way
Specs P4 2.4B@2.98Ghz 1.6v
Ati 9500 128 npro moded 9700pro
2xSamsung 120gb 7200 - Raid 0
Gigabyte PE845 Ultra2
CDROM Plextor 40x SCSI
CDRW Plextor 12x-4x-32x SCSI
DVDROM Pionner A05 6x SCSI
LS 120
Iomega Zip 250Mb
Adaptec 29160 Scsi adapter
1 GB DDR 333@415 2.6v
Phillips 18" LCD
4690 - 3dmark 2003
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