MoBo gone bad? Need some other opinions!

[2336]

Folks, I have a friend that has a Tyan Tiger 2 MoBo, dual slot 1 440LX chipset, running a single PII-266. Here's what's going on - won't show the CD-ROM or a brand new CD-RW - tried switching them several times. In the BIOS it auto-detects the CD-ROM just fine, or so it seems and the CD-RW too, just shows it as an ATAPI CD-ROM. You let it boot all the way (running ME BTW) and it shows NO CD-ROM or CD-RW (doesn't matter which one is installed) and go into device manager and it shows no CD-ROM/CD-RW and it shows conflicts with the CD-ROM controller AND both the Primary and Secondary IDE controllers. I've tried removing and then re-installing all three controllers using the Intel chipset drivers and also allowing ME to search for the best drivers and no dice!!! My bet is on a MoBo going or gone bad. With the wealth of knowledge on the forums I just wanted some opinions on this. Thanks folks!

 

[2336]

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

 

[k10blazer]

Are you running Tweak Ui if so go into tweak check my computer - drives and check the drives your cd should be.

 

[GregMal]

3 Controllers????? You have more than 2 IDE slots on the MB???
Most MBs have a primary and secondary IDE controller. Each controller
can handle 2 devices, master and slave.
You've got your HD on the primary master. And you've probably got the
CDRom and CDRW on the secondary as master and slave. Right???
And you've made sure they're jumpered as master and slave. Right???
What happens if you try to install just 1 CD device?
Greg

 

[2336]

No it has a conventional layout - 2 IDE slots. One for Primary and one for Secondary. The Primary IDE channel has two hard drives installed, jumpered as master and slave and they auto-detect in the BIOS no problem and then show up in "My Computer" as the C and D drives but don't show up in "Device Manager" at all. On the Secondary channel I've tried the CD-ROM and the CD-RW separately. Every time they have been jumpered as master and auto-detect in the BIOS as ATAPI CD-ROM. Open up "My Computer" and no CD-ROM or CD-RW regardless of what is installed. Open up "Device Manager" and no sign of them either. Weird.

 

[GregMal]

Have you tried manually telling the BIOS it's a CDRom rather than "auto" detect?
Anything happen if after installation (not showing in My Computer or device manager)
you place a CD into the CDRom???
Greg

 

[jblondi]

simple check. get a win98 boot disk, boot with CD rom support, if you can read from the disk that way then I would have to say that the mobo is fine, you have a driver issue instead.

 

[2336]

jblondi, I never thought of that, I'll try to give it a shot tomorrow. GregMal, I've manually set the BIOS to CD-ROM and no change. If you can picture the "Device Manager" screen on a normally operating computer then compare to this:

Computer
- - CD-ROM Controller
... - ? Mitsumi CD-ROM controller
+ - Display Adapter
- - Hard Disk Controllers
... - ? Primary IDE Controller (dual fifo)
... - ? Secondary IDE Controller (dual fifo)

then the rest. On a normally operating system it should instead display:

Computer
+ - CD-ROM
+ - Disk Drives
+ - Display Adapter
+ - Floppy Disk Controller
+ - Hard Disk Controller

and so on, right?

Also, I've tried inserting a CD into the CD-ROM, then the CD-RW. Neither one will give any indication of even trying to read the CD much less even detecting that it's there.

 

[jajasoso]

This may sound too simple, but check for a virus.

 

[GregMal]

Is either of your devices made by Mitsumi?? It appears that either windows
or maybe someone has installed a specific Mitsumi CDRom driver! Usually windows
will install the generic ATAPI driver. Have you tried manually installing the CDRom
through the "add hardware" in the control panel??

 

[2336]

GregMal,
I've tried manually installing the CD-ROM through "add hardware" and when it prompts me to either let it autodetect or select from a list, I've tried both routes. Autodetecting doesn't work and when I try to select from a list it's not there. I'm going over there in a few minutes and I'm going to try the following:

#1. Switch IDE cables
#2. Change config., make CD-ROM slave on master IDE channel.
#3. Reload OS and see if drivers reload properly.


Update: At 18:36 found that there's a worm virus parked in the kernel32! Just to be sure I ran a virus scan and came up with that!

 

[ZZZZZZ]

It sounds like your ide controller is not properly loaded in windows, causing the drives to run in DOS Mode Compoatability. If this is the case then you will never get the drives to show up in windows unless you load the driver with Config.SYS and Autoexec.bat. The worm may have caused the problem but it isn't likely unless it hosed the registry.

 

[2336]

Rob, YGPM. You old JarHead you!

 

[ZZZZZZ]

Back at ya buddy