mobile barton or 400 fsb Barton?

[Tyson82]

Hey.

Did a quick search but didnt quite find my answer.

I understand all of the benefits to running a mobile Barton, but will a Mobile 2500 be better than say, a standard 3200? Would I be able to overclock higher with a 3200 than a mobile proc? And I mean actual mhz, not percentage.

Oh and Im running a water system.

thx

 

[AkumaX]

you'd be able to run wayy wayyyy higher w/ a mobile barton, particularly a 35w one

 

[Tyson82]

hmm. thx AkumaX

 

[Avalon]

The 35w 2400+ and the 45w 2600+ would net you much higher results. You can probably hit 2.7ghz on water with either of the two chips.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Don't forget about the benefits of having an unlocked multiplier on the mobile.

 

[Tyson82]

okay. thats what Ill shoot for then. Is there such a thing as a retail mobile?

 

[TheStu]

no.... but seeing as how you usewater, you would be throwing away te HSF anyway....

 

[Tyson82]

Originally posted by: TheStu
no.... but seeing as how you usewater, you would be throwing away te HSF anyway....

Its the warranty that matters to me.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Tyson82

Originally posted by: TheStu
no.... but seeing as how you usewater, you would be throwing away te HSF anyway....

Its the warranty that matters to me.

Once you overclock there is no warranty I thought

 

[Hyperlite]

if you touch any proc settings in the bios any warranty is void....check my sig out in regards to the thread

 

[Tyson82]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
if you touch any proc settings in the bios any warranty is void....check my sig out in regards to the thread

never had a problem returning an o/ced chip that fried before.

 

[Concillian]

That type of behavior is definitely frowned upon here. You had a warrantee that you chose to violate the terms of. If you return something that died when you were overclocking that's not only immoral, but illegal. It hurts every one who buys a processor from the same manfacturer. If you want to brag about your criminal activites, please do it elsewhere. There are other forums that seem to condone and even encourage this type of behavior. I, for one, could do without the company of people who raise my hardware prices then brag to me about it to my face.

 

[Soulkeeper]

mobiles are nice

 

[oldman420]

I Have a 2200 35 watt mobile that will do 2.4 on air.

With water it might get to 2.5 or more with good mb/ram.

 

[Techno]

The latest 2500+ XP-M seem to be doing the best. Most people report 2.7-2.8Ghz. I have the following:

Athlon XP-M 2500+
2GB PC2700
ASUS A7V880
VANTEC AeroFlow Heatsink

Currently at 2625Mhz (16x166) at 1.7 volts on Air. Soon I hope to replace the 2GB of PC2700 w/ 2GB of PC3200.

 

[Tyson82]

Originally posted by: Concillian
That type of behavior is definitely frowned upon here. You had a warrantee that you chose to violate the terms of. If you return something that died when you were overclocking that's not only immoral, but illegal. It hurts every one who buys a processor from the same manfacturer. If you want to brag about your criminal activites, please do it elsewhere. There are other forums that seem to condone and even encourage this type of behavior. I, for one, could do without the company of people who raise my hardware prices then brag to me about it to my face.

you want to flame me do it in a PM. Better yet, you got a problem, keep it to yourself. And there is nothing illegal about it. If they take the proc, no questions asked, than they take the proc. They have every right to turn it down but they do not. Obviously meaning they dont really care.

Might also be why they have UNLOCKED multipliers and RECOMMEND motherboards designed to overclock.

And thanks to everyone else for their postitive and constructive comments.

 

[Concillian]

It is illegal, it's called fraud... unless,of course, you told them you were overclocking and they accepted it.

 

[Tyson82]

Originally posted by: Concillian
It is illegal, it's called fraud... unless,of course, you told them you were overclocking and they accepted it.

hmm. I just read throught he warranty that came with the Sempron Im installing for a friend. No mention of overclocking voiding warranty.

Oh but it does say that using ANY hsf other than the one provided voids the warranty.

You ever put an aftermarket HSF on your AMD processor Concillian?

 

[Concillian]

If you try to tell that to AMD they would probably tell you that the warrantee states:

AMD warrants that the AMD processor... [irrelevant info]... will be free from defects in material and workmanship and will substantially conform to AMD's publicly available specification for a period of .... etc...

Then later the warantee states:

The Limited Warranty does not cover damages due to external causes , including improper use, etc...

I'm pretty sure that running the processor outside of "publicly available specifications" would constitute "improper use"

The question which you did not answer is:
Did you disclose that your processor was overclocked when you returned it?

Because if you did, and they accepted it back, I'm going to have to start buying retail chips instead of OEM ones.

I happen to only own one retail AMD processor and it is not overclocked and is indeed using the included HSF. If I overclocked it and it broke, I would never dream of committing fraud. All of the other processors I own are OEM 15-45 day warantee type of processors that I purchase them knowing I will overclock and void any warantee that existed. My Athlon XP Mobile has never even run at stock speed.

 

[AkumaX]

dude, its only a mobile barton. that's like 70-80 bucks down the drain if you fry it. it's not nice to try to commit fraud to a company that has its competition which overtakes 80% of the market. at least its a lot easier to take the bite, since overclocking pentium4's are almost double in price

 

[Tyson82]

Originally posted by: AkumaX
dude, its only a mobile barton. that's like 70-80 bucks down the drain if you fry it. it's not nice to try to commit fraud to a company that has its competition which overtakes 80% of the market. at least its a lot easier to take the bite, since overclocking pentium4's are almost double in price

Well then gentlemen if it means so much to you, prove AMD feels overclocking is improper use. As far as I can find, they welcome companies and users that are overclocking.

So far, your points are, well nothing but your personal opinion.

So go for it fellas.