Moar episodes, please.

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techs

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Lack of episodes is whats killing television.

From 1995 til 2001 Star Trek Voyager had 177 episodes over 7 season. Thats 26 episodes a year. When you exclude a few weeks for holidays when it wasn't shown, you could catch a new episode of Voyager more often than not.

You had a break of 5 months or less in a year when it wasn't on.

Compare that to Eureka which had 77 episodes over 6 years. That's an average of about 13 episodes a year.

Even one of the most popular shows of recent memory, Lost, in its last three season had 14, 17 and 18 episodes.

Networks should try and show more episodes every year. Even if a show runs its course over less time they will be more popular when viewers can watch more episodes over a shorter period of time.


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KeithTalent

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I just want more seasons. The episode count does not matter, but I hate when a show I love only has two seasons, then is gone. Generally though, fewer episodes in a season is better.

KT
 
PottedMeat

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Printer Bandit said:
more episodes = more filler

less episodes = more quality
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this.

guarantee funding for 12 one hour episodes, no bullshit 'pull the plug partway through the season', have a full story to tell, no making shit up as you go along affected by ratings.
 
Red Squirrel

Red Squirrel

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I agree, that's why I wait for full seasons to come out on torrent and just download and watch serially at my own (usually faster) pace. That, and I can watch them in order. On TV they're not always in order unless you can follow the full schedule and actually be around at the specific time it airs. But then they do throw in repeats here and there too.

That, and availability. Lot of stuff does not even play here.
 
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Childs

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TV in the 50-60's used to have 30-50 episodes a season, and I would say the writing was better.

TV series on cable usually is capped at 13 episodes a season, and broadcast TV around 23. As long as the writing is good, I dont think it matters. I just wish broadcasters would give the shows a chance. Most of the shows I liked only aired 6 or less of the episodes before they were cancelled!
 
Jaskalas

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techs said:
Moar episodes, please.
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Game of Thrones, Season 1 - would like a word with you.

To add to this lesson, I enjoyed the first season of Terminator more than the second. Filler with subpar B plots don't add to the quality, IMO, it's more difficult to pull off a longer season than it is a shorter one.
 
Atomic Playboy

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More episodes isn't the issue, it's substandard programming. Think of the best shows from the past decade or so: Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, The Newsroom, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Archer, Futurama, South Park, Top Gear, The Wire, Sopranos... All of those shows run between 10-14 episodes in a typical season, sometimes even less. Two Broke Girls gives you 24 episodes per season but it also destroys your soul. I'll quality over quantity any day of the week.
 
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BladeVenom

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Jaskalas said:
Game of Thrones, Season 1 - would like a word with you.

To add to this lesson, I enjoyed the first season of Terminator more than the second. Filler with subpar B plots don't add to the quality, IMO, it's more difficult to pull off a longer season than it is a shorter one.
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Game of Thrones season 2 is an example of a show that could have used more episodes. They could have easily added more episodes without adding any filler.
 
Jaskalas

Jaskalas

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BladeVenom said:
Game of Thrones season 2 is an example of a show that could have used more episodes. They could have easily added more episodes without adding any filler.
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Yes, I agree with you there - however, it certainly wouldn't have called for 20+ episodes.
 
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Atomic Playboy said:
More episodes isn't the issue, it's substandard programming. Think of the best shows from the past decade or so: Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, The Newsroom, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Archer, Futurama, South Park, Top Gear, The Wire, Sopranos... All of those shows run between 10-14 episodes in a typical season, sometimes even less. Two Broke Girls gives you 24 episodes per season but it also destroys your soul. I'll quality over quantity any day of the week.
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/agree

Except Archer, Futurama, and South Park. South Park should have been dead a LOOOOOOOOONG time ago. As you can see, cartoons aren't my thing =P

Other than that, the cable networks have been producing some of the best TV ever. I'd add Justified, Breaking Bad, and Suits to the list. Burn Notice and Dexter seem to be doing pretty well, though I haven't watched either. I like Californication and House of Lies a lot, Weeds was pretty good for several seasons also.

We don't need more episodes, we just need more good writers.
 
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SaurusX

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Sherlock season 2 had three episodes. Yes, they were "movie length", but there were still only three episodes. You can't tell me that the writer is at his keyboard every day banging out scripts, because that would be a load of bull. Just like videogame programmers he's doing anything but writing to look for so-called inspiration. Don't give these people so much credit. And the reason the cable shows all end up with 13 or less episodes is because the cable networks are cheap, not because they're high quality.
 
GagHalfrunt

GagHalfrunt

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Star Trek was a little over network average which was about 24 at the time. Now it's like 22-23 average for a full season. Eureka is a cable show and cable networks will commonly air 10-13 episodes of their original series. You're comparing apples to oranges because the number of episodes per series has not changed to a drastic degree since 1995. With the number of original cable series and the alternate start dates of series that will begin in spring and summer, there has never been a time frame when there were NEARLY as many new episodes available year round as there are right now. If you're whining about this go back to the supposed glory days of 1995-2001 and you'd pull your hair out. There is WAY more original programming available now.
 
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werepossum

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I agree with Techs, there should be more episodes. A "full" season buy can be as little as ten episodes; even something like Rules of Engagement, which has lasted maybe seven years, runs only around ten a year. But then, I also like Two Broke Girls. Life has enough drama, thank you; just make me laugh. Or blow something up - but still make me laugh occasionally.
 
Gibsons

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SaurusX said:
Sherlock season 2 had three episodes. Yes, they were "movie length", but there were still only three episodes. You can't tell me that the writer is at his keyboard every day banging out scripts, because that would be a load of bull. Just like videogame programmers he's doing anything but writing to look for so-called inspiration. Don't give these people so much credit. And the reason the cable shows all end up with 13 or less episodes is because the cable networks are cheap, not because they're high quality.
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Yeah, you could count each episode as 3 episodes of a regular show - still only works out to 9 total. Hopefully season 3 will be longer. Assuming it actually happens.
 
Jeff7

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Printer Bandit said:
more episodes = more filler

less episodes = more quality
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Maybe.


"Let's have another clip show! Everyone loves those!"



As a kid, before I understood the economics of TV shows, or had the idea of employed adults being a bit lazy on the job now and then, I couldn't understand why they were running repeats inside of what was otherwise a new episode.
 
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Childs

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Gibsons said:
Yeah, you could count each episode as 3 episodes of a regular show - still only works out to 9 total. Hopefully season 3 will be longer. Assuming it actually happens.
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I dunno...they were kinda pushing it in Season 2 with the Hound of the Baskervilles. The other two in the season were excellent though, although they already burned through Moriarty.
 
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