[MMO] World of Tanks

[Skott]

No changes to armor on the Panthers. Just gun changes from what I have heard and the tier changes.

 

[Skott]

Servers up. I see I have to research suspension (8200xp) on the Panther again. That kinda sucks. Like they couldn't give that to me as a freebie considering I had already moved on up to a Panther 2? The cheap bastages! LOL. Time to test the E-50.

Edit: Early impressions... This E-50 does not bounce shells like the testers said. No more so than a Panther 2 in my opinion. I'm using the first 88mm gun so I can't say much about fire power. Its okay but under gunned against the bigger tanks. Does damage but just not enough. I couldn't even break the tracks of the E-100(wait till you guys come up against this bad boy!). I expect that to change though once I get to the 10.5. The second 88 costs 43k xp and the 10.5 costs 59k xp so I dont see a reason to go onto the second 88 gun when I can save a little more and get the best gun. Why buy the 88 and then start all over again to save for the 10.5. Doesn't make practical sense. The second 88 has better stats though than the first 88 so should be better. I dont have the best engine but I dont think the E-50 has better maneuverability than the panther 2. About the same I'd say. Thats my early impressions with it after playing 80-90 minutes. Off to work. I'll play again more tonight.

 

[PowerYoga]

fought against a bunch of the e-series last night. The e-50 feels like a faster panther 2 to me. Had 0 issues (one bounce) fighting it with a 100mm, the front can be tough to penetrate though. The e-75 feels like a faster stronger Tiger2 with a big ass gun... no issues penetrating it from the front (mud guards seem a bit weak?) but that gun really hurts.

Haven't fought an e-100 yet, but had one on our team that got blown to pieces in about 5 seconds by arty.

 

[stag3]

oh man the panther II sucks still , didn't see much improvement over the panther.
i sold my panther right away, saved the crew, grinding panther II for the E50 now.

i'm getting 1shotted by arty, getting 100% health down to 4% in most of my matches if not outright blown up

 

[Skott]

Yeah, the night before the 6.6 patch my Panther 2 was one shotted by a GWTiger. I was less than thrilled. They didn't make any actual improvements to the Panther 2. Just changed tiers. Considering its only one tier change I doubt there to be much play improvement overall. Also, I'm kinda miffed my Panther 1 needs to research the suspension all over again. Like they couldn't give it to me? The original Panther 1 was elited!

 

[stag3]

yea it's just a stepping stone to the E50 now, i hope that doesn't suck
i'm about 1/2 way thru with the kv13 right now, not sure if i want to keep it
or just sell it when i get the t43

 

[Merad]

The Panther 2 so far for me is moderate to mediocre. I have it upgraded except for engines. The thing moves like a pig. Gun is so-so; decent pen, low damage, slow reload. Few shots bounce, and you're a massive target.

I did have a great game on it for my daily double tonight. 5 kills, 2 damaged, 18/18 shooting, took 21 hits and survived. 3500 xp after the doubling.

 

[stag3]

sold the kv13, picked up the t43
grinding the turret so i can pick up the 100 right now......

debating if it's worth getting the engine, since the t44 stock engine is this one's upgraded one

 

[Skott]

Changing my answer here... I'd get the upgraded turret and gun before engine. Suspension>Turret>Gun>then engine. But thats just me. If I remember correctly thats how I did mine back in beta. The gun would help you gain xp faster so make getting that engine grind a little easier. Also help make the grind to T-44 faster. Whether to get the engine or not is debatable. Maybe try running on just stock engine and see if you can bear not upgrading power for the duration of the grind to T-44. The engine does give you more speed. Also a little less (3&#37 chance of a engine fire.

 

[Massive Overkill]

I sprung for the engine on my T43. There are two maps I play where I definately turn the tide of the game for my side because I'm able to use my speed (and power) to keep the enemy from taking over strategic points and give my team control instead. Those two maps are Karelia and El Halluf.

Karelia is epic. If I'm on either side, usually I am able to get to the plateau first. I can keep the enemy at bay to give my heavies a chance to get into a good position. I'll usually take 1 or 2 mediums/lights out that arrive at the same time that would have otherwise spotted for their arty, while spotting for my arty at the same time.

It's alot of XP for the upgrade, but I find the grind to the T44 more enjoyable with the upgraded engine.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Well my S51 went from horrible to fun as hell with the simple 203mm gun. I keep 1 AP round for last stand or a huge target. While it doesn't generate 100k credits like the Lowe, it does generate 50k with ease.

 

[stag3]

hmm i just got the 100mm, debating on wasting the 15k for the better 85mm. and i am gaining credits faster now, the stock gun and 2nd gun was horrible. i may go ahead and get the engine now. i don't know if it's just me but this thing gets set on fire A LOT. a few games last night hit #1 set me on fire, as soon as the flame went out, the next hit set me on fire again and i blew up, good times .

i said i wasn't going to get the is-7, but i have so much time before the russian patch, i should easily have enough, i might as well get it as i currently have 4 mil cash , and about 40k xp. i still can't believe how much punishment the is-4 can take.

 

[PowerYoga]

don't bother with the 85mm. The 100mm is the staple for russian mediums all the way up until t54's best gun, you should've been using it from the t34/85 though?

IMO the t43 is just a dog. It's slow even with the top engine, has slow acceleration and the maneuverability leaves a lot to be desired. It drives like a truck and can't really bounce many shots. I researched the engine because its something the T44 uses as well and it's actually a bit lighter than the stock. Never really caught on fire much with the t44 though, I find german tanks more prone to that than anything else.

 

[stag3]

oh i did the jump to the t43 from the kv-kv1s-kv13 route after i figured out the panthers just sucked ass and i should have gone russian all the way

i used the 100 on the IS and did way better than using the 122s so im familiar with this gun

i don't see a reason to upgrade the engine because it's (the upgraded t43 engine) the stock engine on the t44 so i'll get it when i buy the t44 regardless

 

[PowerYoga]

Ah, I must've mixed up the IS-3 and IS-4 engines with the t-43's.

Yeah just get out of that piece of crap as fast as possible. Get the gun and tracks and then get the t-44. Although now with the p2 match ups the T-44 is harder to enjoy...

 

[stag3]

im seeing e50's getting owned hard in all matches so far as well, doesn't seem to be that great a tank, it was nerfed bigtime from beta testing according to the forums.

the good news is i can make the jump from the db to the tiger/tiger II now as i want one just cause it looks cool

 

[PowerYoga]

I think its just because the e-50 is so different. People are driving it like a heavy but in reality it's still very much a medium. It's not going to survive a brawl with an IS-3 or a KT, but it's not nimble enough to circle very effectively. It however does have a huge slab of frontal armor that is perfect for brawling with other mediums, and its 65 tons worth of weight means a world of hurt if you crash into something.

I have 0 issues penetrating the armor from the side with a 100mm. However, if you're stupid enough to try to fight this thing head on I think you'll find yourself on the end of the pointy stick more often than not.

 

[Nintendesert]

Ok finally got my Tiger and was able to grind through and use all the bonus XP I had been saving to get my long 88, wow what a difference that made! No longer are rounds bouncing or no damage, I'm punching holes in everything I shoot at. Even the frontal armor of the Tiger II.

I'm finally enjoying my Tiger and I just play it as a sniper tank and support usually. Out position the enemy tanks and be smart about where and when I engage and I do pretty well with it now. I'm really liking it with that long 88.

 

[Skott]

The E-50 has some weak spots. The mud flaps in front for example. Extremely weak. Hit it there and watch the hit points drop off the E-50 quick. From what I hear its a bug from back during its beta. They haven't fixed it yet. Btw, the E-75 has the exact same mud flap problem. The E-100 has a lower glacis problem. So aim low between its treads and watch it's HPs drop as well. This is assuming the gun you are using against these tanks has decent power and penetration but those are the weak spots in front.

 

[Craig234]

The E-50 has some weak spots. The mud flaps in front for example. Extremely weak. Hit it there and watch the hit points drop off the E-50 quick. From what I hear its a bug from back during its beta. They haven't fixed it yet. Btw, the E-75 has the exact same mud flap problem. The E-100 has a lower glacis problem. So aim low between its treads and watch it's HPs drop as well. This is assuming the gun you are using against these tanks has decent power and penetration but those are the weak spots in front.

Deathstar has a similar problem.

Hit it in the right spot and boom.

 

[stag3]

5x xp first match of the day
50% off modules + tank slots
24hrs of premium free

+ other stuff
going on right now for the 1yr anniversary

 

[PowerYoga]

The E-50 has some weak spots. The mud flaps in front for example. Extremely weak. Hit it there and watch the hit points drop off the E-50 quick. From what I hear its a bug from back during its beta. They haven't fixed it yet. Btw, the E-75 has the exact same mud flap problem. The E-100 has a lower glacis problem. So aim low between its treads and watch it's HPs drop as well. This is assuming the gun you are using against these tanks has decent power and penetration but those are the weak spots in front.

I was knife fighting an e-75 yesterday in my IS-4. Was able to penetrate the mud flaps once and my shot bounced the second time... not sure where exactly I was suppose to be shooting it. I think at that range, shooting the lower glacis is a much more reliable penetration area unless you have a weak gun. The spot really is tiny and if the guy wiggles his tank just a bit you're prone to scrape instead of damage.

Got the BL-10 and the improved threads in my ISU-152 last night. This gun is... beastly, to say the least. Side penetration on an IS-4 killed him at 47% health, one shotting a lot of other tanks as well.

Oh but I got a critical hit on a priest. Still at 100%. The 152 should've tore off his whole entire chasis... >_>....

 

[Daverino]

ISU-152 is nice with the BL-10 but the reload time is horrendous and it's still made out of paper. It's a bit like the KV derp of the tier 8s. You wouldn't want to, for example, do a shoot out against a Ferdinand with the BL-10. Yes, you will kill the Ferd in two shots, but you need to land both of them. The Ferd can land the three needed to kill you more accurately. With 0% crits running around, you can't afford to do a non-damaging shot.

ISU-152 has to peek, take a shot, and then get behind something solid for 15 seconds. If it gets caught exposed for a moment it will get shattered.

 

[stag3]

is the t43 to low a tier, to see the stabilizer?
i want to buy the stabilizer for when i have the t54 since it's 50% off modules
but i don't see it listed, i got the vents + rammer already for my t43 to move over to the t44 and finally the t54

 

[PowerYoga]

ISU-152 is nice with the BL-10 but the reload time is horrendous and it's still made out of paper. It's a bit like the KV derp of the tier 8s. You wouldn't want to, for example, do a shoot out against a Ferdinand with the BL-10. Yes, you will kill the Ferd in two shots, but you need to land both of them. The Ferd can land the three needed to kill you more accurately. With 0% crits running around, you can't afford to do a non-damaging shot.

ISU-152 has to peek, take a shot, and then get behind something solid for 15 seconds. If it gets caught exposed for a moment it will get shattered.

I've actually bounced a fair amount of low caliber shots on the ISU. The ferdi can penetrate the IS4 frontally so I don't expect to bounce stuff from the huge TDs. I've been using the 152 for the whole duration of SU-152 and the ISU-152 so I'm very familiar with the load times as well. Peak a boo is pretty much what I do with the ISU... take a shot and GTFO, unless I have eyes from a scout.

Russian TDs have to stay hidden or they'll get blown to pieces. Ferdis have a bigger leeway with their armor... but the 0% crit affects everyone and not just the ISU.

Also I don't believe you can mount the vert stab on anything lower than tier 8 tanks. I didn't have it on the t-43.

Just go to equipment and take a peek, you should see it there if you click the radio button for "all tanks" instead of "compatible with my current tank".