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Lifer
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I actually thought about creating a thread recently, asking if people washed their fruit/vegetables from the grocery store.

I wash all produce (picked up habit from my mom) but wonder how much it really helps since I just use water. I mean, sure, it'll remove dirt and dead bug parts (if any) and little stuff like that, but I would think it does (next to) nothing for bacteria. I've wondered if anyone made a "anti-bacterial" soap/spray to use for cleaning produce but haven't seen it in the store.

Then again, I guess I've eaten water-washed produce for 32 years and as far as I know, have never gotten sick from it, so I guess "anti-bacterial" is not really necessary. ;)
 

Charmonium

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I actually thought about creating a thread recently, asking if people washed their fruit/vegetables from the grocery store.

I wash all produce (picked up habit from my mom) but wonder how much it really helps since I just use water. I mean, sure, it'll remove dirt and dead bug parts (if any) and little stuff like that, but I would think it does (next to) nothing for bacteria. I've wondered if anyone made a "anti-bacterial" soap/spray to use for cleaning produce but haven't seen it in the store.

Then again, I guess I've eaten water-washed produce for 32 years and as far as I know, have never gotten sick from it, so I guess "anti-bacterial" is not really necessary. ;)
I'd worry less about bacteria and more about pesticide residue. I don't know the stats but I'm pretty sure that the US imports at least half of its fruits and veggies. So while in theory, anything sold here should meet US regs, I doubt that actually happens.

That's why I like to use the peroxide method. It should neutralize most pesticides and has the advantage of knocking out organic contaminants as well.
 

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I'd worry less about bacteria and more about pesticide residue. I don't know the stats but I'm pretty sure that the US imports at least half of its fruits and veggies. So while in theory, anything sold here should meet US regs, I doubt that actually happens.

That's why I like to use the peroxide method. It should neutralize most pesticides and has the advantage of knocking out organic contaminants as well.
Ah yeah, I forgot about pesticides. I would think water helps to wash those off, if any exist on the produce.

I'd be willing to try that peroxide method, but I don't think I'll go through the extra time to do it since I haven't had any ill effects all these years and find the produce tastes fine. A good thing to know, though.
 

EliteRetard

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Problem with water washing is the wax (natural or added) that traps all the delicious contaminants. You need something that will break down or penetrate the wax if you want a real clean, but then you need to eat it right away or the fruit starts to go bad.
 

EliteRetard

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All dumpster-divers believe they have a hardened immune system. I'm not sure how true that is. It's possible the parasites in their brains make them believe it's so.

(toxoplasmosis)

Could be a prion disease.

All I know is if my nose drips a bit it's my body politely telling me I am currently carrying a deadly pathogen. It usually takes a day or two to kill off these nasty bastards, but doesn't affect me in any other way. During this time however I can be contagious, and people that get near me drop like flies. Common colds and diseases have no effect on me, and I have not been "sick" as long as I can recall (other than the few times I became a carrier).

Of course if I eat some really rotten food it can give me some nasty smelling gas and even potentially give me the craps, so I suppose that could qualify as getting sick.
 

Jaepheth

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Water rinse alone is pretty effective; more so when paired with a diluted vinegar solution:

[url=http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14540742]NPR[/url] said:
Have you ever wondered whether those expensive veggie washes are worth the money?

The editors of Cook's Illustrated, a serious foodie magazine, wondered too. They usually focus on cooking techniques, but recently they looked into techniques for cleaning food.

"We wondered ourselves, you know, what's the best way to be washing an apple, or the best way to be washing a pear," said Jack Bishop, editor at Cook's Illustrated.

Testing Cleaning Techniques

So the magazine did some comparative testing, by cleaning apples and pears in four different ways. They washed one batch with an antibacterial soap. (That, by the way, is not recommended by food safety experts — nobody thinks swallowing soap is a good idea.)

They washed other pieces of fruit with a solution of diluted vinegar (one part vinegar to three parts water), rinsing afterward with pure water. They scrubbed the third group with a brush, and simply rinsed the fourth group with clean water.

To measure how well each technique worked, they sampled the outside of the fruit with sterile cotton swabs, then rubbed the little bits of grime onto Petri dishes.

Jack Bishop says they next let the Petri dishes sit at 80 degrees for several days to see what bacteria grew. Then they counted how many bacterial colonies were present.

It turns out the scrub brush removed 85 percent of the bacteria — a little more than the water alone.

But the cleaning method that worked the best was the dilute vinegar rinse. It removed 98 percent of the bacteria.

Cleaning with Vinegar

"I've got a spray bottle filled with three cups of water and one cup of white vinegar," Bishop says. "It's in a spray bottle — the kind you'd mist your plants with."

Bishop sprays each apple with about six squirts of the solution — just enough to coat the surface — and then rinses it under the tap.

"The cold water will wash the residual flavor from the vinegar, and finishes the cleaning process," Bishop says. "So it's a 30-second, 50-cent investment."

The technique works best for smooth skinned fruits and vegetables. When you get to broccoli, lettuce leaves, or spinach, produce is harder to clean — as we've learned from recent nationwide recalls. Bishop's team found that soaking lettuce in the vinegar solution works well, but it's a little more labor intensive than spraying apples.

"You're going to have to separate out the leaves. You can't do a whole head. And that may be where it gets to be impractical, because you need a big enough bowl to be three parts water and one part vinegar," says Bishop.

The folks at Cook's Illustrated are not the first to document the effectiveness of acidic washes. Researchers at the Institute of Agricultural and Environmental Sciences at Tennessee State University tested dilute vinegar against plain water and a commercial product called Veggie Wash that they purchased at a grocery store.

"We really did not really find the veggie washes effective or necessary," says Sandria Godwin, who oversaw the project.

Godwin says they do get rid of most bacteria, but her team of researchers found that water works just as well. They found that water can remove 98 percent of bacteria when it's used to rinse and soak produce.

For vegetables such as broccoli or cauliflower that have lots of crevices, Godwin recommends a two-minute soak, even though this contradicts the advice of government food-safety experts who are concerned about cross-contamination of bacteria.

"They're not recommending the soaking of foods because that puts bacteria in the sink itself," explains Godwin. "We still think you should go ahead and do the soak, and wash your sink when you get through!"

For people who aren't willing to go to all this trouble — what about that old technique of rubbing or polishing a piece of fruit on your clothes to get off the grime? There's not much research, but Godwin did have one student look into it a little bit.

"We lined people up in here and had them blow on their apple and rub it on their shirt or lab coats to see if that's effective," Godwin says. "And surprisingly it did something; it's better than nothing. But it really depends on how clean the shirt is."

So, she does not recommend that. Here's a better tip: Since bacteria and dirt are usually trapped at the blossom and stem ends of fruit, the Tennessee researchers say slicing off both ends after rinsing is a good idea.

I just rinse produce with water