MLB Replay used for the first time...

[BeauJangles]

... and they blow the call anyway :roll:

edit: Fair enough, they may not have blown it.

But I say this replay is further proof that the Trop needs to be blown up.

edit2: Just saw it on Baseball Tonight. I'm still not convinced it was a fair ball, but it was damn close.


LINK: http://mlb.mlb.com/index.jsp

 

[The Boston Dangler]

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[chuckywang]

Tampa Bay game right?

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
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He's not even new, he's been here 7 years and doesn't know the rules. Sheesh.

 

[Argo]

Umh, they got it right - listen to the explanation. That second "foul pole" is irrelevant and shouldn't even be there.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
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Unforunately, there is no link.

MLB broadcast prohibits highlights until after the game is over, except on MLB.com (obviously), but there is no video on there.

Anyway, it was a monster hit by A-Rod over the left-field foul pole. It hit the catwalk of the Trop, to the left of the foul pole on that catwalk. Ruled a HR.

Originally posted by: Argo
Umh, they got it right - listen to the explanation. That second "foul pole" is irrelevant and shouldn't even be there.

Never heard anything about those foul poles being meaningless, but if that's the case then the call makes sense, particularly because the ball was hooking.

 

[raystorm]

It took 2 minutes for the decision which isn't terrible since whenever the manager bitches about a homerun call the umps start a few tea parties until they make up their mind.

 

[BHeemsoth]

The call was obviously right from the get-go.

Spoken like a true Yankees/A-Rod hater.

 

[EagleKeeper]

The determining factor is which side of the linethe ball was on when the ball crosses the base (1rst or 3rd).

The markers at the outfield are reference points only based on the assumption that the ball is not hooking after passing over the base.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The determining factor is which side of the linethe ball was on when the ball crosses the base (1rst or 3rd).

The markers at the outfield are reference points only based on the assumption that the ball is not hooking after passing over the base.

Yeah, but to be fair to the MLB umps, the ball was hooking slightly away from fair territory as it went over the foul pole. If that's the case, it was definitely passed 3rd on the fair side of the line... the bigger question is did it hook around the pole, did it fly straight over the pole or did it simply go foul.

A lot of that depends on where you're standing and, clearly, the best angle is from home plate looking down the line.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The determining factor is which side of the linethe ball was on when the ball crosses the base (1rst or 3rd).

The markers at the outfield are reference points only based on the assumption that the ball is not hooking after passing over the base.

Uhhh, I have no idea where you got that explanation - because none of it is correct...

Where it crosses first or third only applies to ground balls. If the ball passes first or third in the air, fair/foul is determined solely by where it first hits land (or if it were inside the foul pole as it passes it).

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The determining factor is which side of the linethe ball was on when the ball crosses the base (1rst or 3rd).

The markers at the outfield are reference points only based on the assumption that the ball is not hooking after passing over the base.

Uhhh, I have no idea where you got that explanation - because none of it is correct...

Where it crosses first or third only applies to ground balls. If the ball passes first or third in the air, fair/foul is determined solely by where it first hits land (or if it were inside the foul pole as it passes it).

correct. where it passes the base only matters on grounders. if its a fly ball it depends on where it lands.


even watching the replay its hard to tell. Not to mention the homer really didnt matter other then his stats.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The determining factor is which side of the linethe ball was on when the ball crosses the base (1rst or 3rd).

The markers at the outfield are reference points only based on the assumption that the ball is not hooking after passing over the base.

Uhhh, I have no idea where you got that explanation - because none of it is correct...

Where it crosses first or third only applies to ground balls. If the ball passes first or third in the air, fair/foul is determined solely by where it first hits land (or if it were inside the foul pole as it passes it).

My fault

 

[cubby1223]

Actually to be more specific, it's when the fly ball first hits "something", could be the ground, the stands, or a fielder's glove. Example, the ball could pass 3rd base in fair territory, curve foul, and the fielder can be running, and with his feet in fair territory, glove in foul territory, the baseball bounces off the glove and first hits ground in fair territory.

Foul ball, runners cannot advance.


Then if there are rafters or something else like in dome stadiums which the ball can bounce off of, special ground rules determine fair/foul calls, & home run calls, and can vary from stadium to stadium.