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MLB all star game

KLin

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They'd probably reschedule for the next day. They have to play the game to determine who will have home field advantage in the world series.
 

GG02

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Originally posted by: KLin
They have to play the game to determine who will have home field advantage in the world series.

IMO, its a terrible way to decide who has home field advantage. Better record should determine it.
 

acheron

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Problem with "better record" is that the teams facing each other in the WS for the most part play entirely different sets of teams, so their records aren't directly comparable. If the leagues are roughly even, then maybe that doesn't matter, but frankly the AL is pretty obviously the better league nowadays, so the NL team sets their record against an easier set of teams.

That said, the "winner of the all-star game" thing is kind of stupid too, so I don't really have a solution other than going back to the alternate-years thing.

But yeah, they'd probably just play it the next day, which is still part of the break. If it rained *again*, I don't know.. it's not like there's another day where all the teams are free.
 

GG02

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Originally posted by: acheron2112
Problem with "better record" is that the teams facing each other in the WS for the most part play entirely different sets of teams, so their records aren't directly comparable. If the leagues are roughly even, then maybe that doesn't matter, but frankly the AL is pretty obviously the better league nowadays, so the NL team sets their record against an easier set of teams.

Good point. Perhaps just using the two teams head to head record? It just is amusing to me that 2 teams are battling for the right to home field, when maybe 1/10th of the players on the respective teams will be involved in the series that it would be affecting.
 

Mr Pickles

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The day the game is played is very important to the pitchers. If it were a day late it would throw them off for sure. The ones that pitch close to the day the break is over will be jeopardizing their start.
 

Toasthead

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I dont think it rains enough anywhere in July to warrant a rained out game. those fields can handle a LOT of rain
 

dbk

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Originally posted by: GG02
Originally posted by: acheron2112
Problem with "better record" is that the teams facing each other in the WS for the most part play entirely different sets of teams, so their records aren't directly comparable. If the leagues are roughly even, then maybe that doesn't matter, but frankly the AL is pretty obviously the better league nowadays, so the NL team sets their record against an easier set of teams.

Good point. Perhaps just using the two teams head to head record? It just is amusing to me that 2 teams are battling for the right to home field, when maybe 1/10th of the players on the respective teams will be involved in the series that it would be affecting.

Yeah, especially since the AL has won all of them since 1996 or something.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: acheron2112
Problem with "better record" is that the teams facing each other in the WS for the most part play entirely different sets of teams, so their records aren't directly comparable. If the leagues are roughly even, then maybe that doesn't matter, but frankly the AL is pretty obviously the better league nowadays, so the NL team sets their record against an easier set of teams.

That said, the "winner of the all-star game" thing is kind of stupid too, so I don't really have a solution other than going back to the alternate-years thing.

But yeah, they'd probably just play it the next day, which is still part of the break. If it rained *again*, I don't know.. it's not like there's another day where all the teams are free.

The reason why they went to the "winner of the all-star game" is because, if I recall correctly, the all-star game that prompted the "winner" prize was one which went to extra innings and the teams said "they ran out of pitchers" and had to end the game early. Of course, this didn't sit well with the fans and baseball put this in place as an incentive to finish the game.
 

Mr Pickles

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Originally posted by: Toasthead
I dont think it rains enough anywhere in July to warrant a rained out game. those fields can handle a LOT of rain

It has nothing to do with the fields. a wet glove on a pitcher with a wet ball being hurled at 93 mph changes gameplay and might actually make it dangerous for the hitter. They normally don't call it if its a light rain, instead they call it when they determine that a pop fly might be hard to catch because the rain may make it hard to see.
 

Toasthead

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Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Originally posted by: Toasthead
I dont think it rains enough anywhere in July to warrant a rained out game. those fields can handle a LOT of rain

It has nothing to do with the fields. a wet glove on a pitcher with a wet ball being hurled at 93 mph changes gameplay and might actually make it dangerous for the hitter. They normally don't call it if its a light rain, instead they call it when they determine that a pop fly might be hard to catch because the rain may make it hard to see.

I'm saying they would wait it out. Ive played PLENTY of baseball in the rain and it SLIGHTLY changes gameplay. I'm saying it just doesn't rain hard enough in July in very many places that they would postpone the game...delay, yes; postpone, no.

The danger comes from standing water on the field and wet bases, not soggy balls or wet gloves. The average lifespan of a baseball is something like 6 pitches.
 

Mr Pickles

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Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Originally posted by: Toasthead
I dont think it rains enough anywhere in July to warrant a rained out game. those fields can handle a LOT of rain

It has nothing to do with the fields. a wet glove on a pitcher with a wet ball being hurled at 93 mph changes gameplay and might actually make it dangerous for the hitter. They normally don't call it if its a light rain, instead they call it when they determine that a pop fly might be hard to catch because the rain may make it hard to see.

The average lifespan of a baseball is something like 6 pitches.

Which is why the drinking game "new ball" gets you wasted by the third inning!
 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: Toasthead
I dont think it rains enough anywhere in July to warrant a rained out game. those fields can handle a LOT of rain

Doesn't mean it couldn't happen. I was just curious what the backup plan is in the event the game got rained out and cannot be made up.